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OK I'm really high now. What next?

by CameronNemo 3y ago

jondwillis 3y ago
Freedom to do what you want as long as it doesn’t have negative externalities?
- _2z1p 3y ago
  Unpopular opinion around here, but strong hallucinogenic drugs can have negative externalities.
  - grglburgp 3y ago
    Same as computers, cars, fossil fuels, social media, airplanes, plastic, guns, politics, capitalism, sunlight… Did you hear about life itself? Leading cause of death.
  - Tostino 3y ago
    Anything worse than alcohol?
    - penjelly 3y ago
      one often discussed topic of psychedelics is "ego shedding/death" usually seen as a positive thing, which it can be. But it can certainly misalign you for life as you currently know it. So, you may end up "in a worse situation" if your life was going well, you experience "ego shedding" after which you struggle to return to "normal life". This concept is terrifying for a lot of people, and rightly so i think
    - lockhouse 3y ago
      Permanent psychosis or murdering your friends and family because you hallucinated them into a harmful monster? https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9pmz/acid-lsd-fuelled-murder-homicide https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9pmz/acid-lsd-fuelled-murd...
      - xyzwave 3y ago
        You’re cherry-picking [0] (using Vice to boot). Not to mention people do that without drugs. How about the thousands who don’t commit violent crimes as a result of taking these drugs [1]? Sorta like the clothesline paradox [2]. 0. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking#:~:text=Cherry%20picking%2C%20suppressing%20evidence%2C%20or,that%20may%20contradict%20that%20position https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking#:~:text=Cherr.... 1. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01336-3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01336-3 2. https://www.oreilly.com/radar/the-clothesline-paradox-and-the-sharing-economy/ https://www.oreilly.com/radar/the-clothesline-paradox-and-th...
        carlmr 3y ago
        Adding to that, alcohol is worse in these categories.
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jrflowers 3y ago
Play Katamari
voxelghost 3y ago
polynomial quotient rings
- FFP999 3y ago
  No you got the order backwards. Remember the old saying from college: "Polynomial quotient rings before acid, the rest of your day will be quiet and placid. Acid before polynomial quotient rings, you'll wish that you hadn't done one of those things."

OK I'm really high now. What next?

jondwillis 3y ago

Freedom to do what you want as long as it doesn’t have negative externalities?

_2z1p 3y ago
Unpopular opinion around here, but strong hallucinogenic drugs can have negative externalities.
- grglburgp 3y ago
  Same as computers, cars, fossil fuels, social media, airplanes, plastic, guns, politics, capitalism, sunlight… Did you hear about life itself? Leading cause of death.
- Tostino 3y ago
  Anything worse than alcohol?
  - penjelly 3y ago
    one often discussed topic of psychedelics is "ego shedding/death" usually seen as a positive thing, which it can be. But it can certainly misalign you for life as you currently know it. So, you may end up "in a worse situation" if your life was going well, you experience "ego shedding" after which you struggle to return to "normal life". This concept is terrifying for a lot of people, and rightly so i think
  - lockhouse 3y ago
    Permanent psychosis or murdering your friends and family because you hallucinated them into a harmful monster? https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9pmz/acid-lsd-fuelled-murder-homicide https://www.vice.com/en/article/7k9pmz/acid-lsd-fuelled-murd...
    - xyzwave 3y ago
      You’re cherry-picking [0] (using Vice to boot). Not to mention people do that without drugs. How about the thousands who don’t commit violent crimes as a result of taking these drugs [1]? Sorta like the clothesline paradox [2]. 0. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking#:~:text=Cherry%20picking%2C%20suppressing%20evidence%2C%20or,that%20may%20contradict%20that%20position https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking#:~:text=Cherr.... 1. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01336-3 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01336-3 2. https://www.oreilly.com/radar/the-clothesline-paradox-and-the-sharing-economy/ https://www.oreilly.com/radar/the-clothesline-paradox-and-th...
      - carlmr 3y ago
        Adding to that, alcohol is worse in these categories.

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jrflowers 3y ago

Play Katamari

voxelghost 3y ago

polynomial quotient rings

FFP999 3y ago
No you got the order backwards. Remember the old saying from college: "Polynomial quotient rings before acid, the rest of your day will be quiet and placid. Acid before polynomial quotient rings, you'll wish that you hadn't done one of those things."