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Are you even required to pay that? Like, why would you just pay some random invoice some company sends you, without you asking for it? Would they pay your “re

by tomp 3y ago

Are you even required to pay that? Like, why would you just pay some random invoice some company sends you, without you asking for it? Would they pay your “resort guest fee” if you sent them an invoice?

chrisnight 3y ago
> Are you even required to pay that? One sad part of the situation is that even if you aren't required to do something, it can result in you being completely banned from said business's services under the idea that they can refuse service to someone for any reason. With the business model nowadays mostly being franchises, a ban from an entire subset of businesses can be a substantial burden for someone, especially if the business takes up a large part of the market. Edit: Not to say this will necessarily happen in this circumstance, but it is a very real possibility when refusing to work with certain businesses.
- uxp8u61q 3y ago
  What will happen is much simpler. They won't give you the room key if you don't pay, and will eventually ask you to leave the premises if you're not a customer.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  It's usually not a big chain doing this, so I'd gladly get banned since I'm never going back anyway. That's not the problem (see adjacent).
  - prepend 3y ago
    Hotels in all the major chains do this. Try staying in a Hilton or Hyatt or Marriott in a touristy place like Hawaii or Florida and not get a resort fee or something stupid. If you’re lucky they are advertised and you can filter. If you’re unlucky you find out at check-in and your options are pay or find a new hotel while your family waits. Or if you’re super lucky, you find out at checkout and just refuse to pay and be on your merry way.
    - hot_gril 3y ago
      Hilton etc will charge the fee when you book. I just tried with Hilton Orlando. It's mildly annoying getting a booking bill more than the widely advertised price, and it should be illegal too, but you know what you're paying when you pay. What I referred to above is being charged a resort fee after you've already paid the initial booking fee. Last two places I saw this were Balley's in Vegas and VYE in Miami.
      - prepend 3y ago
        I stayed at a Hyatt on the Florida gulf and I didn’t pay anything to book. But I had a reservation with an amount. When I got to check in they let me know there was a $35 resort fee. It was frustrating.
hot_gril 3y ago
It's after I pay and before I stay. I could refuse, but then I'd have no hotel and lose the booking payment.
- londons_explore 3y ago
  If you have already paid 'in full', then I think you'd be morally in the right to just say you didn't bring your wallet because you had paid already online.
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    Yes I am, but morally right doesn't mean I get the room. Also, they tend to put the refundable deposit on my card when I check in, which actually makes sense just in case whoever they admit isn't me*, or I booked long ago and my old card is now defunct. * or more broadly, whoever they admit (whether or not it's me) has enough credit at the time of the actual stay to entrust the room to
    - abawany 3y ago
      Exactly. I was once called 2 hours after I had checked-in in a new town and informed that I must pay extra to stay due to some booking confusion between them and the travel agency. It was a huge hassle to find a new place that night and check out of the greedy hotel asap. You can be sure I left honest reviews of my experience in a few places.
  - 0x457 3y ago
    Even you fully pay online, you have to put down a deposit for a room and bring your id.
    - hexo 3y ago
      No you DONT. You must live in a very abusive country if you think that is normal.
      - 3y ago

by tomp 3y ago

chrisnight 3y ago

> Are you even required to pay that? One sad part of the situation is that even if you aren't required to do something, it can result in you being completely banned from said business's services under the idea that they can refuse service to someone for any reason. With the business model nowadays mostly being franchises, a ban from an entire subset of businesses can be a substantial burden for someone, especially if the business takes up a large part of the market. Edit: Not to say this will necessarily happen in this circumstance, but it is a very real possibility when refusing to work with certain businesses.

uxp8u61q 3y ago
What will happen is much simpler. They won't give you the room key if you don't pay, and will eventually ask you to leave the premises if you're not a customer.
hot_gril 3y ago
It's usually not a big chain doing this, so I'd gladly get banned since I'm never going back anyway. That's not the problem (see adjacent).
- prepend 3y ago
  Hotels in all the major chains do this. Try staying in a Hilton or Hyatt or Marriott in a touristy place like Hawaii or Florida and not get a resort fee or something stupid. If you’re lucky they are advertised and you can filter. If you’re unlucky you find out at check-in and your options are pay or find a new hotel while your family waits. Or if you’re super lucky, you find out at checkout and just refuse to pay and be on your merry way.
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    Hilton etc will charge the fee when you book. I just tried with Hilton Orlando. It's mildly annoying getting a booking bill more than the widely advertised price, and it should be illegal too, but you know what you're paying when you pay. What I referred to above is being charged a resort fee after you've already paid the initial booking fee. Last two places I saw this were Balley's in Vegas and VYE in Miami.
    - prepend 3y ago
      I stayed at a Hyatt on the Florida gulf and I didn’t pay anything to book. But I had a reservation with an amount. When I got to check in they let me know there was a $35 resort fee. It was frustrating.

hot_gril 3y ago

It's after I pay and before I stay. I could refuse, but then I'd have no hotel and lose the booking payment.

londons_explore 3y ago
If you have already paid 'in full', then I think you'd be morally in the right to just say you didn't bring your wallet because you had paid already online.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  Yes I am, but morally right doesn't mean I get the room. Also, they tend to put the refundable deposit on my card when I check in, which actually makes sense just in case whoever they admit isn't me*, or I booked long ago and my old card is now defunct. * or more broadly, whoever they admit (whether or not it's me) has enough credit at the time of the actual stay to entrust the room to
  - abawany 3y ago
    Exactly. I was once called 2 hours after I had checked-in in a new town and informed that I must pay extra to stay due to some booking confusion between them and the travel agency. It was a huge hassle to find a new place that night and check out of the greedy hotel asap. You can be sure I left honest reviews of my experience in a few places.
- 0x457 3y ago
  Even you fully pay online, you have to put down a deposit for a room and bring your id.
  - hexo 3y ago
    No you DONT. You must live in a very abusive country if you think that is normal.
    - 3y ago