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How would that work when you may not even know where the person wants service? You might know a general area and there might be unknown fees that the isp cant k

by eppp 3y ago

How would that work when you may not even know where the person wants service? You might know a general area and there might be unknown fees that the isp cant know until after they negotiate with the various stakeholders to build service.

Bud 3y ago
This sounds like a feature, not a bug. To the extent that is the case, all of those thousands of ISP lawyers would now become incentivized to reduce the complexity of the bullshit fee structures you're talking about.
sharts 3y ago
Don't cell providers across the country charge the same price regardless of coverage guarantees? Generally you'd probably negotiate w/ stakeholders BEFORE advertising. I'm not sure why any sane person would advertise something before having a solid idea of what is possible, unless they are running for political office.
- eppp 3y ago
  I cant even guarantee you we can build in any given building even if a resident wants the service. Cell providers don't have to deal with physical issues of access.
throwaway14356 3y ago
i think the same way it works everywhere else? Some customers are more profitable than others. Often the more expensive service is more profitable but if you want simple pricing you can do the opposite.
pessimizer 3y ago
If you don't know the price that you can charge, you shouldn't get the right to make one up for advertising. That's creating a special right for the stupid or lazy.
topspin 3y ago
> How would that work when you may not even know where the person wants service? No cost until the service location is known. It's a two way street, right? It's entirely reasonable that if you were to obligate the ISP to deliver precision in pricing they'd have no recourse but to require accurate disclosure of the service location. This is all fantasy, however. This clown world we've built doesn't contemplate such things. The minor ask the FCC is making here is as far as it will go, and if the big ISPs put enough campaign money into the right "family foundations" we might not even get that much.

by eppp 3y ago

Bud 3y ago

This sounds like a feature, not a bug. To the extent that is the case, all of those thousands of ISP lawyers would now become incentivized to reduce the complexity of the bullshit fee structures you're talking about.

sharts 3y ago

Don't cell providers across the country charge the same price regardless of coverage guarantees? Generally you'd probably negotiate w/ stakeholders BEFORE advertising. I'm not sure why any sane person would advertise something before having a solid idea of what is possible, unless they are running for political office.

eppp 3y ago
I cant even guarantee you we can build in any given building even if a resident wants the service. Cell providers don't have to deal with physical issues of access.

throwaway14356 3y ago

i think the same way it works everywhere else? Some customers are more profitable than others. Often the more expensive service is more profitable but if you want simple pricing you can do the opposite.

pessimizer 3y ago

If you don't know the price that you can charge, you shouldn't get the right to make one up for advertising. That's creating a special right for the stupid or lazy.

topspin 3y ago

> How would that work when you may not even know where the person wants service? No cost until the service location is known. It's a two way street, right? It's entirely reasonable that if you were to obligate the ISP to deliver precision in pricing they'd have no recourse but to require accurate disclosure of the service location. This is all fantasy, however. This clown world we've built doesn't contemplate such things. The minor ask the FCC is making here is as far as it will go, and if the big ISPs put enough campaign money into the right "family foundations" we might not even get that much.