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And yet 1 out of 180 CS professors are OBCs despite the population being over 40%. It’s probably closer to the welfare queen trope. Yeah, there are a few peopl

And yet 1 out of 180 CS professors are OBCs despite the population being over 40%. It’s probably closer to the welfare queen trope. Yeah, there are a few people who cheat the system, like any other system in the world. Thaw existence of cheaters does not negate the very real problems and challenges faced by the actual “victims”.

varunpant 3y ago
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- Philpax 3y ago
  Yes, and?
  - OkayPhysicist 3y ago
    Dude really said the quiet part out loud. Caste discrimination is just another kind of bigotry, like sexism and racism.
- UncleMeat 3y ago
  1/180 is very very very different than 4/10. That's not just some statistical anomaly.
- lozenge 3y ago
  There's nothing biologically different about these people. The only difference is how they're treated by society.
- michaelchisari 3y ago
  I'm not one who believes that perfect representational parity is possible or even desirable within all social groupings. That said, I see no reason to ignore the implication of a 1% vs 40% disparity within a highly advantageous profession.
- kelnos 3y ago
  Right, they absolutely should fight for equal representation. The numbers aren't always going to be exactly equal to representation, sure. But when you have a group that comprises 40% of society only represented by a half percent in prestigious university faculty positions, you need to step back and figure out what's going on there. These people are not genetically different or of lower intelligence; they've literally been not allowed to hold these positions even if they wanted them and could be qualified for them. Frankly, your point of view is advocating for bigotry and oppression, and I suggest you re-evaluate why that is so.
- hef19898 3y ago
  And where would that end, right? /s Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud so.
naravara 3y ago
There was functionally no public education system available to most Indians until a decent bit after Independence, and even now most rural communities have atrocious schooling standards with chronically absentee teachers. India has been an extremely poor country for a long time. It’s not a situation like the US where there were plenty of opportunities available and some segment of society is gated out of them. Almost all Indians save for a narrow clade of people who worked directly under the imperial administration of the British Empire had access to anything, and even those were the cream of the crop from the pre-British days who could translate their prior privileges to getting ahead of their peers in the rat race. It’s basically tautological to say OBCs are underrepresented in the upper echelons of society. That’s literally how the category is defined. The system was set up from colonialism on down to leave very few positions with contemporary standards of dignity for “natives” to occupy.

varunpant 3y ago

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Philpax 3y ago
Yes, and?
- OkayPhysicist 3y ago
  Dude really said the quiet part out loud. Caste discrimination is just another kind of bigotry, like sexism and racism.
UncleMeat 3y ago
1/180 is very very very different than 4/10. That's not just some statistical anomaly.
lozenge 3y ago
There's nothing biologically different about these people. The only difference is how they're treated by society.
michaelchisari 3y ago
I'm not one who believes that perfect representational parity is possible or even desirable within all social groupings. That said, I see no reason to ignore the implication of a 1% vs 40% disparity within a highly advantageous profession.
kelnos 3y ago
Right, they absolutely should fight for equal representation. The numbers aren't always going to be exactly equal to representation, sure. But when you have a group that comprises 40% of society only represented by a half percent in prestigious university faculty positions, you need to step back and figure out what's going on there. These people are not genetically different or of lower intelligence; they've literally been not allowed to hold these positions even if they wanted them and could be qualified for them. Frankly, your point of view is advocating for bigotry and oppression, and I suggest you re-evaluate why that is so.
hef19898 3y ago
And where would that end, right? /s Thanks for saying the quiet part out loud so.

naravara 3y ago

There was functionally no public education system available to most Indians until a decent bit after Independence, and even now most rural communities have atrocious schooling standards with chronically absentee teachers. India has been an extremely poor country for a long time. It’s not a situation like the US where there were plenty of opportunities available and some segment of society is gated out of them. Almost all Indians save for a narrow clade of people who worked directly under the imperial administration of the British Empire had access to anything, and even those were the cream of the crop from the pre-British days who could translate their prior privileges to getting ahead of their peers in the rat race. It’s basically tautological to say OBCs are underrepresented in the upper echelons of society. That’s literally how the category is defined. The system was set up from colonialism on down to leave very few positions with contemporary standards of dignity for “natives” to occupy.