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> Which is why it's so annoying that I still need a Windows box for PC gaming. Steam is not helping. Any game that only ships 32-bit x86 binaries should not be

> Which is why it's so annoying that I still need a Windows box for PC gaming. Steam is not helping. Any game that only ships 32-bit x86 binaries should not be listed as having Mac support. Apple not only doesn't sell x86 Macs anymore, they don't even do security updates for Mojave. If you have an Intel Mac around, Bootcamp likely makes for a 10x better gaming experience. I feel like Apple are really dropping the ball here. There's an amazing catalogue of classic games that could run really well under a hypothetical 32-bit x86 Rosetta. But Apple is doing Apple, and asking you to use their Game Porting Toolkit instead... Basically telling gamedevs, if you're not ready to go full Apple, don't go Apple at all.

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javajosh 3y ago
>Steam is not helping. Apple's version of Steam could be called "Sauce".
dwaite 3y ago
> There's an amazing catalogue of classic games that could run really well under a hypothetical 32-bit x86 Rosetta Rosetta 2 is a combination of good AOT/JIT x86-64 translation to ARM, and apple-specific hardware modes to change performance CPU to use the x86-64 memory model. The x86-32 memory model is much more expensive to support. Doing this in software is why ARM windows has such a terrible reputation for running x86-32 unbearably slow. Unless Apple suddenly feels the need to make a stronger investment in running an architecture they deprecated before they even switched off Intel, it is unlikely to see any sort of official offering. Even if they did feel the need to support 32-bit: without a hardware investment (e.g. M4 support), you likely get the same performance you would running under a third party emulator - which you can get reasonably easily via ARM linux or windows running on the hypervisor. So if there isn't interest in an actual port, your easiest option to run older games is going to be with something like Parallels running a Windows VM.

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javajosh 3y ago

>Steam is not helping. Apple's version of Steam could be called "Sauce".

dwaite 3y ago

> There's an amazing catalogue of classic games that could run really well under a hypothetical 32-bit x86 Rosetta Rosetta 2 is a combination of good AOT/JIT x86-64 translation to ARM, and apple-specific hardware modes to change performance CPU to use the x86-64 memory model. The x86-32 memory model is much more expensive to support. Doing this in software is why ARM windows has such a terrible reputation for running x86-32 unbearably slow. Unless Apple suddenly feels the need to make a stronger investment in running an architecture they deprecated before they even switched off Intel, it is unlikely to see any sort of official offering. Even if they did feel the need to support 32-bit: without a hardware investment (e.g. M4 support), you likely get the same performance you would running under a third party emulator - which you can get reasonably easily via ARM linux or windows running on the hypervisor. So if there isn't interest in an actual port, your easiest option to run older games is going to be with something like Parallels running a Windows VM.