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This is not only good for reducing infantry casualties but also reducing civilian casualties. Once the panic response sets in, it is likely that they will fire
by RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
This is not only good for reducing infantry casualties but also reducing civilian casualties.
Once the panic response sets in, it is likely that they will fire on anything without fully assessing.
Training in similar environments can help soldiers avoid a panicked response and more logically assess the situation.
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- yamazakiwi 3y agoI've done combat training in one (a 3-story aluminum sided building furnished like a large office) and they had rigged the whole building with an interactive surround sound system. Once the course started and we got up to the building, I thought I heard music coming from inside. We opened the door and Metallica was blasting at 120db and none of us could hear each other. We had to communicate using signals while navigating the course with fake hostages and combatants etc. all while Master of Puppets was assaulting my ears. You couldn't escape it either, we were being sound-gunned on every floor and every room. Anyway, just thought I'd share since Sound is something people forget when imagining training in these buildings and the experience was invaluable.
- constantly 3y agoThis is extremely unsafe and seems like grounds for a lawsuit, if it were reasonably possible to do this. For reference only 7.5 minutes per day at 120db will cause permanent hearing loss. Disgusting that they made you do this. https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1910/1910.95 https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/19...
- yamazakiwi 3y agoI'll be honest, 120db was an exaggeration because it was VERY loud, I would not have had a way to measure it in combat gear. Additionally, earplugs are part of a military uniform at a lot of bases so you are required to carry them and the onus would be on you. At that point in time, I was not required to have hearing protection however. You're not a civilian while enlisted, suing for any reason is not an option in most cases. It's more likely you would file to collect disability in the event of hearing damage after you get out.
- toast0 3y agoHearing damage should be on the easier to show side; I'm sure they screened your hearing during enlistment, so if your hearing tests as damaged when you're discharged, there you go. Confirming a connection to service if you don't test near discharge might be harder.
- tracker1 3y agoYou might be surprised... a friend of mine spent 18 months in a tank with a cannon next to his head and has almost total loss in one ear and much lower function in the other... he's had trouble getting VA to pay for hearing aids.
- toast0 3y agoI'm sorry to hear that; I would have expected it to be much easier than some of the stories I've heard about getting coverage for Agent Orange exposure from family and others.
- dreamcompiler 3y agoGoogle "3M ear plug lawsuit".
- Sophistifunk 3y agoI hear OSHA also frowns on being fired upon at work
- dymk 3y agoIs it not typical for the military to have hearing protection? My highschool gun club had earmuffs with active noise suppression that would dampen sound above a certain DB level.
- tracker1 3y agoDepends... apparently doesn't help much if you're in a tank with a cannon a few inches from your head for 18 months.
- yamazakiwi 3y agoOr using pneumatic tools for 12+ hours daily for weeks, or spending time underwater with the worlds most powerful sonar
- yamazakiwi 3y agoIt is common and a part of your uniform on a lot of bases i.e. you will get in serious trouble without them.
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- AndrewKemendo 3y agoSounds like we were in the same era. Welcome to the jungle was a perennial favorite at the school house my days. At one of the SERE courses I did they had a noise focused resistance training period so you lose all sense of time and space. Pretty trippy
- Eduard 3y agothis is so grotesque to read. Imagine a fake all-American town constructed in China, and someone commenting "This is not only good for reducing infantry casualties but also reducing civilian casualties."
- shepherdjerred 3y agoWhat's the alternative?
- Eduard 3y agoeg, staying out of other countries.
- dymk 3y agoA recent study showed handing a Pepsi to the invading army would avert war
- onionisafruit 3y agoThat study has not been replicated.
- cebert 3y agoI would imagine those do exist in China
- throwawaylinux 3y agoI'd imagine America would be the last place China would invade, so I would be surprised if they'd bother. The closest (western) scenario I could see them training for is Australia.
- hotnfresh 3y agoReason: even in 2023, the logistics of invading a very large country of 350ish million across the Pacific are daunting, to put it mildly. “Impossible” is barely an overstatement. I would also be surprised if they bother to train for an invasion of North America.