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Chinese people are seeing the same decline of birth and marriage. Part of that contributes to better life but I'd say the majority is because of Capitalism. Th
by markus_zhang 3y ago
Chinese people are seeing the same decline of birth and marriage.
Part of that contributes to better life but I'd say the majority is because of Capitalism. This form of Capitalism is initiated by the government so there is not much to check its power.
Essentially, if you look at housing, cost of education and cost of medical services, you will understand why middle class in China does not want to give birth to children.
- pyuser583 3y agoChina also had, and still has, a child limit policy that violates human rights. Not to mention the genocide currently in progress. Genocides don’t help fertility, I’m guessing.
- throwawaysleep 3y agoChina now has a 3 kid cap. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57303592 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-57303592 Their birthrate is 1. The cap is not a barrier anymore.
- pyuser583 3y agoDecades of vicious persecution and propaganda don’t just vanish. Even in America, there was a massive effort to convince people to have fewer kids, and prominent people still blindly recite the talking points - with zero correction by fact-checkers.
- markus_zhang 3y agoThe limit is basically gone now so at least that is a non issue.
- pyuser583 3y agoIt’s still there. The limit is currently four (with exceptions). I’m pretty sure the mere existence of a limit sends a message.
- markus_zhang 3y agoYeah but that's basically non issue now because many people vote for 0.
- HDThoreaun 3y agoI really think it's a mistake to say quality of life is lower in China right now than at any point in the past. Yes, housing is expensive, but 60 years ago literally tens of millions of people starved to death. Housing in rural china is still cheap, but no one wants to live there. It's capitalism that allowed people to escape rural subsistence farming that realistically meant starvation level quality of life. I do think people work more, but that's largely because the alternative is being a subsistence farmer on the verge of starvation like they would've been before capitalism.
- havblue 3y agoI'll note that this isn't intended to start a political argument, but I'm confused when people blame capitalism, even in countries that are themselves communist. What does this even mean? Are we blaming the global market economy? What would the solution be then, severely limit trade between countries?
- pixl97 3y agoChina is not communist, it is authoritarian capitalist.