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The issue was whoever created this didn't design a widely compelling proposition.. You had to value the bundled Google Game Pass and YouTube Music Premium to m

by dotBen 3y ago

The issue was whoever created this didn't design a widely compelling proposition.. You had to value the bundled Google Game Pass and YouTube Music Premium to make it a good deal. Anyone who doesn't play games and uses Spotify would be under water vs just paying monthly for the phone (if payments is what makes the new phone accessible). Also the open secret in Google Pixel lifecycle is that Google heavily subsidizes the trade in value of the prior gen phone at launch, which has meant each consecutive Pixel phone has cost me $100 or less to trade up into on an annual basis. Holding onto a Pixel phone for 2 years actually leads to a significant depreciation curve vs annual trade up.

uxp8u61q 3y ago
Are you happy with your creation of e-waste? Seriously, a phone a year...
- bombcar 3y ago
  Unless he's smashing the old phone with a sledgehammer, it doesn't cease to exist. That he's given money for the trade-in indicates it's refurbished and sold used to someone else, so the total waste is reduced, perhaps even more so than someone who buys top of the line phones, and after three years puts them in a drawer and buys a new one (because the trade in value is almost nothing and/or by then it's cracked, etc).
  - ghusto 3y ago
    I think the point is that if people like him didn't keep buying new phone unnecessarily, then there would be less phone being manufactured unnecessarily. The fact that he sells it on doesn't change that.
    - bombcar 3y ago
      More likely supply would just be constrained - up to some point. Just like the supply of housing isn’t increased unless more people buy new ones. Of course, at some point people start throwing working phones away.
jerlam 3y ago
Pixel phones also seem to be on sale six months of the year. For a few release cycles, new Pixels were released in October and half off in December. Getting a "Pixel Pass" didn't make any sense financially.

by dotBen 3y ago

uxp8u61q 3y ago

Are you happy with your creation of e-waste? Seriously, a phone a year...

bombcar 3y ago
Unless he's smashing the old phone with a sledgehammer, it doesn't cease to exist. That he's given money for the trade-in indicates it's refurbished and sold used to someone else, so the total waste is reduced, perhaps even more so than someone who buys top of the line phones, and after three years puts them in a drawer and buys a new one (because the trade in value is almost nothing and/or by then it's cracked, etc).
- ghusto 3y ago
  I think the point is that if people like him didn't keep buying new phone unnecessarily, then there would be less phone being manufactured unnecessarily. The fact that he sells it on doesn't change that.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    More likely supply would just be constrained - up to some point. Just like the supply of housing isn’t increased unless more people buy new ones. Of course, at some point people start throwing working phones away.

jerlam 3y ago

Pixel phones also seem to be on sale six months of the year. For a few release cycles, new Pixels were released in October and half off in December. Getting a "Pixel Pass" didn't make any sense financially.