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Maybe, it is time to think what discriminations are, what caste-discriminations are: https://www.hipkapi.com/2011/03/24/normative-assumptions-discriminations-an

Maybe, it is time to think what discriminations are, what caste-discriminations are: https://www.hipkapi.com/2011/03/24/normative-assumptions-discriminations-and-caste-discriminations/ https://www.hipkapi.com/2011/03/24/normative-assumptions-dis...

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crooked-v 3y ago
> I was invited by some Sadhus from Swami Narayan Temple (BAPS) to visit the temple and have a discussion with them. Because they practice very strict Brahmacharya (eight types of avoiding women, each correlated to an organ: it is called Ashtanga Brahmacharya), the Sadhus said that women could not be present during our discussions, while they were welcome to visit the temple. > A few years later, one of my teachers from Belgium visited another wing of the Swami Narayan people and found that ‘women were discriminated against’ because they were allowed only to come some distance from the temple when the Sadhus were present. > The question here is: why did these people (my students and my teacher) experience ‘discrimination’, where I saw none and also knew that none was intended? Dropped the article right there. Having a genuine religious belief doesn't automatically excuse discrimination, and I have zero interest in reading more from someone who thinks that it does.
- rhuru 3y ago
  Discriminating in private life and affairs is not just a basic human right but also necessary for the wellbeing of people. Imagine you are not allowed to pick gender on Tinder. Would that be a good example ? These are nor discriminations, these are perfectly valid life choices that make our society diverse. The problem is when your boss refuses you promotion or when government decides to have a higher tax rate for you because of your identity.
lozenge 3y ago
The article boils down to "discrimination is bad, treating people differently by sex or caste is okay, therefore I don't want to call it discrimination, regardless of whether it is or not".
- raincom 3y ago
  Any charge of discrimination requires one of making normative moral assumptions: everyone ought to be equal, everyone ought be to be same, etc. Without such moral assumptions, it becomes a mere choice.

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crooked-v 3y ago

> I was invited by some Sadhus from Swami Narayan Temple (BAPS) to visit the temple and have a discussion with them. Because they practice very strict Brahmacharya (eight types of avoiding women, each correlated to an organ: it is called Ashtanga Brahmacharya), the Sadhus said that women could not be present during our discussions, while they were welcome to visit the temple. > A few years later, one of my teachers from Belgium visited another wing of the Swami Narayan people and found that ‘women were discriminated against’ because they were allowed only to come some distance from the temple when the Sadhus were present. > The question here is: why did these people (my students and my teacher) experience ‘discrimination’, where I saw none and also knew that none was intended? Dropped the article right there. Having a genuine religious belief doesn't automatically excuse discrimination, and I have zero interest in reading more from someone who thinks that it does.

rhuru 3y ago
Discriminating in private life and affairs is not just a basic human right but also necessary for the wellbeing of people. Imagine you are not allowed to pick gender on Tinder. Would that be a good example ? These are nor discriminations, these are perfectly valid life choices that make our society diverse. The problem is when your boss refuses you promotion or when government decides to have a higher tax rate for you because of your identity.

lozenge 3y ago

The article boils down to "discrimination is bad, treating people differently by sex or caste is okay, therefore I don't want to call it discrimination, regardless of whether it is or not".

raincom 3y ago
Any charge of discrimination requires one of making normative moral assumptions: everyone ought to be equal, everyone ought be to be same, etc. Without such moral assumptions, it becomes a mere choice.