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People comparing this to Google are missing the point. Google doesn't put popup on Microsoft websites in Chrome to switch to Google equivalent, not even on Offi

People comparing this to Google are missing the point. Google doesn't put popup on Microsoft websites in Chrome to switch to Google equivalent, not even on Office online or other places where Microsoft may be dominant. Chrome acts as a platform and doesn't add shady stuff or popups to any websites you view, which is what is expected of a platform. Microsoft also put things into MSOffice which work better on Windows (and trust me Office on Mac is missing so so many features compared to Windows), and that too is a problem, but much smaller than an OS doing shady things like this.

codalan 3y ago
Google and Apple do things similar on their devices. I get nagged to backup my Android phone. It's a thinly-veiled upsell to their Google Drive product. There is no way to tell it to STOP ASKING ME. I have an alternative backup system that I use. I will never pay for Google Drive. The same is true for the iPhone. If you forget to turn off the Apple iCloud stuff on your phone, you'll hit the free limit at some point, then get an endless amount of nagging to BUY THE ICLOUD UPGRADE. How is this not any different than a popup in Windows nagging me to switch to Edge? Or to buy O365? The worst part is that none of this stuff have a permanent opt-out. Everyone has adopted the dark pattern of only providing Yes or Remind Me Later as options. It's just endless harassment from these large, bloated companies seeking more rent, rather than actually doing any substantial innovation.
- crop_rotation 3y ago
  Neither of these are remotely similar to what M$FT is doing here. For one, I don't remember using any device where Google drive is an uninstallable app. Second, on android you can always turn off any notifications from any app. I don't even remember seeing any thread on such google drive notifications, so even it happens it seems very rare. The windows cases are too many and show up here every once in a while with some new obnoxious popup.
- utdoctor 3y ago
  “How is this not any different than a popup in Windows nagging me to switch to Edge? Or to buy O365?” The implementation. I would argue Microsoft is far more egregious on how it shoves “recommendations” in your face compared to Apple or Google. Lots of sites have ads for example, but you can quickly discern well integrated ads vs ones that are distracting.
- coffeeling 3y ago
  Yup. Connect new wireless earbuds? wOuLd yOu lIkE tO eNaBlE gOoGlE vOiCe aSsiStAnT? No, Google, I wouldn't, please stop asking every time.

codalan 3y ago

Google and Apple do things similar on their devices. I get nagged to backup my Android phone. It's a thinly-veiled upsell to their Google Drive product. There is no way to tell it to STOP ASKING ME. I have an alternative backup system that I use. I will never pay for Google Drive. The same is true for the iPhone. If you forget to turn off the Apple iCloud stuff on your phone, you'll hit the free limit at some point, then get an endless amount of nagging to BUY THE ICLOUD UPGRADE. How is this not any different than a popup in Windows nagging me to switch to Edge? Or to buy O365? The worst part is that none of this stuff have a permanent opt-out. Everyone has adopted the dark pattern of only providing Yes or Remind Me Later as options. It's just endless harassment from these large, bloated companies seeking more rent, rather than actually doing any substantial innovation.

crop_rotation 3y ago
Neither of these are remotely similar to what M$FT is doing here. For one, I don't remember using any device where Google drive is an uninstallable app. Second, on android you can always turn off any notifications from any app. I don't even remember seeing any thread on such google drive notifications, so even it happens it seems very rare. The windows cases are too many and show up here every once in a while with some new obnoxious popup.
utdoctor 3y ago
“How is this not any different than a popup in Windows nagging me to switch to Edge? Or to buy O365?” The implementation. I would argue Microsoft is far more egregious on how it shoves “recommendations” in your face compared to Apple or Google. Lots of sites have ads for example, but you can quickly discern well integrated ads vs ones that are distracting.
coffeeling 3y ago
Yup. Connect new wireless earbuds? wOuLd yOu lIkE tO eNaBlE gOoGlE vOiCe aSsiStAnT? No, Google, I wouldn't, please stop asking every time.