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Your experience doesn't contradict theirs at all -- they're not talking about being imprisoned, found guilty, or even brought to trial. They exit the pipeline,
by woooooo 3y ago
Your experience doesn't contradict theirs at all -- they're not talking about being imprisoned, found guilty, or even brought to trial.
They exit the pipeline, with hardship, before your statistics pick up.
- bArray 3y ago^ Exactly this. It reminds me of the 99.8% Japanese conviction rate [1]. It's not because the police are the best in the world or that their legal system is superior, it's because only 8% make it to court. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Jap...
- giantg2 3y agoOr, they take a plea deal that doesn't result in incarceration (or the crime/sentencing didnt assign imprisonment), but all the other negatives. Still in the pipeline, but they just aren't in those stats since they aren't incarcerated.
- rayiner 3y agoPlea deals must be accepted by judges based on the record. See the failed Hunter Biden plea.
- giantg2 3y agoThe majority of cases end in a plea deal. Yes, the judge has to sign off, but usually they just accept whatever deal was made (of course the lawyers present it "graciously" and answer any questions so the judges feel involved, but in my limited experience they accept any reasonable ones). The Biden deal is unusual. It's highly political. The other interesting part is that they still have an active investigation, so it's not like the deal was conclusive (prosecution and defense were arguing on protection from future prosecution in the deal).