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I want everyone here to completely get over the fantasy fairytale idea that Microsoft can be moved on this by typical "consumer feedback" types of responses. W

by jrm4 3y ago

I want everyone here to completely get over the fantasy fairytale idea that Microsoft can be moved on this by typical "consumer feedback" types of responses. We've been here too long, and we know what Microsoft is and what they do. Switch operating systems, or push for EXTERNAL changes in law and policy. The other stuff is futile.

phendrenad2 3y ago
If I had a dollar for every time HN confused HN for the real world, I'd be a trillionaire.
- darknavi 3y ago
  Which currency though?
hot_gril 3y ago
My way of dealing with this is simple, I just don't care. If I were forced to use Windows at work, it'd be annoying, I might curse a few times, but I'd still get my work done at the end of the day.
- jrm4 3y ago
  Sure, but what I'd like to get more people to do (I do this, I teach IT for a living) is to think of it perhaps a little like ecology/ the environment? None of us can individually solve climate change, but that doesn't mean "do nothing." First steps are to talk about it. We've handled shitty companies before, with regulation and other means, we could do it here. Or at least try, which is worth it.
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    The difference is that the environment (aka the entire world) dwarfs the importance of desktop operating systems. I'll do my part there. Meanwhile I assume Windows's days are numbered somehow, but even if it weren't, I'm not stuck with it. I'm stuck with certain other bad tooling at work instead.
mrguyorama 3y ago
This toxic shit is intentional, and the people who direct the business are very pleased with the money they are making. This will not change without force of law. The market is getting exactly what it wants.
- jrm4 3y ago
  Yup. The flipside being that, at least until recently, "the market" didn't know that Linux was an alternative here. It's starting to. Of course, half the people here in HN love that, and the other half actively and/or passively work against it.
- berniedurfee 3y ago
  KPIs gonna KPI

by jrm4 3y ago

phendrenad2 3y ago

If I had a dollar for every time HN confused HN for the real world, I'd be a trillionaire.

darknavi 3y ago
Which currency though?

hot_gril 3y ago

My way of dealing with this is simple, I just don't care. If I were forced to use Windows at work, it'd be annoying, I might curse a few times, but I'd still get my work done at the end of the day.

jrm4 3y ago
Sure, but what I'd like to get more people to do (I do this, I teach IT for a living) is to think of it perhaps a little like ecology/ the environment? None of us can individually solve climate change, but that doesn't mean "do nothing." First steps are to talk about it. We've handled shitty companies before, with regulation and other means, we could do it here. Or at least try, which is worth it.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  The difference is that the environment (aka the entire world) dwarfs the importance of desktop operating systems. I'll do my part there. Meanwhile I assume Windows's days are numbered somehow, but even if it weren't, I'm not stuck with it. I'm stuck with certain other bad tooling at work instead.

mrguyorama 3y ago

This toxic shit is intentional, and the people who direct the business are very pleased with the money they are making. This will not change without force of law. The market is getting exactly what it wants.

jrm4 3y ago
Yup. The flipside being that, at least until recently, "the market" didn't know that Linux was an alternative here. It's starting to. Of course, half the people here in HN love that, and the other half actively and/or passively work against it.
berniedurfee 3y ago
KPIs gonna KPI