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That statement (the universe, which is what we seemingly evolved and grew in, was created by ... us? we are our own creator?) is so circular and illogical that
by AtlasBarfed 3y ago
That statement (the universe, which is what we seemingly evolved and grew in, was created by ... us? we are our own creator?) is so circular and illogical that it is actually ingenious.
Like humans existed in some other existence, but we were going to get Gnab Gib'd, so we ensured that the next universe would inevitably rise to precisely recreate us through a convoluted 4 billion year evolutionary program in a tiny speck of dirt in one of billions of galaxies?
It's like some convoluted anime/manga plotline that occurs in the final stages of a 10-15 year run. Or heck, like the infamous "Dallas" plot element from the 1980s: THE ENTIRE SERIES WAS JUST A DREAM.
Or "Lost".
It does seem that quantum mechanics hints at the universe being some bizarre gigantic n-dimensional computational matrix, but that's probably because of the discrete quantities and rigid math and things like hard orbits/energy level jumps which seem a lot like memory assignment or cellular automata.
- rendall 3y agoI want to object that the OP et. al. are not arguing that humans created the Universe, but, riding their argument to its logical extremes, that must be the argument. A quantum computer- or a simulation - is a technology that serves human needs and interests. Therefore, if the Universe were an instance of human technology, the Universe is created by humans QED. I suppose though that the OP would argue that these technologies would be universally useful, so to speak, and therefore not necessarily created by humans. Not a good argument, but it seems to be the underlying assumption.