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Sorry to hear that happened to you (if I'm understanding correctly). There really is so little concern or compensation given to innocent people who get hit by t

Sorry to hear that happened to you (if I'm understanding correctly). There really is so little concern or compensation given to innocent people who get hit by the system. How long did it take you to get your items back? What sort of damage did they do? > or are part of a community the police are scared of Also curious about this if you have any more info to share. What sorts of communities did you see that with?

bArray 3y ago
> There really is so little concern or compensation given to innocent people who get hit by the system. No, there is none. You can report directly to the police force which will throw your complaint out. The next step is the IOPC [1] which is made of ex-police, and it's not independent. They just clear themselves of wrong-doing, when they are evidently in the wrong. > How long did it take you to get your items back? What sort of damage did they do? Over a year in one case, several months in another case (car keys, phone, wallet, work clothes). If it wasn't for having another bank account, a spare car and phone (all of which they didn't know about), I would have been without an income. To add insult, they lost the car keys and damaged the phone. When I complained, they told me to claim on the house insurance - which would have sent the premiums through the roof. > Also curious about this if you have any more info to share. What sorts of communities did you see that with? Tight-knit groups, such as travellers or gangs. They have no way to enter the group and they all share the same name when asked. [1] https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/ https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/
CalRobert 3y ago
My neighbours in Ireland had two mobile homes, 17 kids, several dogs (Akitas and German Shepherds mostly) hundreds of cousins, and they would all come out to scream at anyone who gave them trouble or asked them to perhaps keep their dogs on their land. They had an ongoing feud with the neighbour who had shot one of their dogs for killing too many sheep. They shot fireworks over my (thatched) roof and would make rude remarks any time they saw me outside. The planning department hassled me for the heritage characteristics of my windows. They were happy to ignore the completely illegal mobile homes next door. The police do nothing but occasionally talk to them very sheepishly. This is in a country where the police usually do not carry firearms, which I don't think makes a lot of sense, personally. Of course, if you do something truly horrible, like smoke cannabis or not pay taxes on onion imports, you'll go to jail.
- bArray 3y ago
  I've seen extremely similar throughout the UK. Possibly the worse thing about the UK (or Ireland) is that it punishes those who abide by the rules the most. Unfortunately you will not got any support from the government or police. The only way out of your situation is to gather multiple allies and make the area unviable. In one local place the farmers shot bird scarers over the tops of their caravans for several nights and they left.
  - CalRobert 3y ago
    I just left and am taking a huge loss on the house.

bArray 3y ago

> There really is so little concern or compensation given to innocent people who get hit by the system. No, there is none. You can report directly to the police force which will throw your complaint out. The next step is the IOPC [1] which is made of ex-police, and it's not independent. They just clear themselves of wrong-doing, when they are evidently in the wrong. > How long did it take you to get your items back? What sort of damage did they do? Over a year in one case, several months in another case (car keys, phone, wallet, work clothes). If it wasn't for having another bank account, a spare car and phone (all of which they didn't know about), I would have been without an income. To add insult, they lost the car keys and damaged the phone. When I complained, they told me to claim on the house insurance - which would have sent the premiums through the roof. > Also curious about this if you have any more info to share. What sorts of communities did you see that with? Tight-knit groups, such as travellers or gangs. They have no way to enter the group and they all share the same name when asked. [1] https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/ https://www.policeconduct.gov.uk/

CalRobert 3y ago

My neighbours in Ireland had two mobile homes, 17 kids, several dogs (Akitas and German Shepherds mostly) hundreds of cousins, and they would all come out to scream at anyone who gave them trouble or asked them to perhaps keep their dogs on their land. They had an ongoing feud with the neighbour who had shot one of their dogs for killing too many sheep. They shot fireworks over my (thatched) roof and would make rude remarks any time they saw me outside. The planning department hassled me for the heritage characteristics of my windows. They were happy to ignore the completely illegal mobile homes next door. The police do nothing but occasionally talk to them very sheepishly. This is in a country where the police usually do not carry firearms, which I don't think makes a lot of sense, personally. Of course, if you do something truly horrible, like smoke cannabis or not pay taxes on onion imports, you'll go to jail.

bArray 3y ago
I've seen extremely similar throughout the UK. Possibly the worse thing about the UK (or Ireland) is that it punishes those who abide by the rules the most. Unfortunately you will not got any support from the government or police. The only way out of your situation is to gather multiple allies and make the area unviable. In one local place the farmers shot bird scarers over the tops of their caravans for several nights and they left.
- CalRobert 3y ago
  I just left and am taking a huge loss on the house.