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> Leave it for a proper OS. > It might not be possible for your company issued computers if they don't allow you to use something else[1][2] but for your perso

by tivert 3y ago

> Leave it for a proper OS. > It might not be possible for your company issued computers if they don't allow you to use something else[1][2] but for your personnal [sic] uses it is fairly easy. It's not that easy, unless you're willing to make a bunch of sacrifices for the sake of using a different OS. Windows is by far the dominant desktop OS, and there's a lot of software people need and want to use that's available only for it.

CuriouslyC 3y ago
It used to be that way, but now Linux has really good application compatibility. You can run the majority of apps using wine/proton, and ironically old hardware tends to be better supported in Linux.
- tivert 3y ago
  > You can run the majority of apps using wine/proton I've heard that, but I'm skeptical. I'm assuming "most apps" don't include MS Office. How much wrestling is involved? Can you just run a Windows installer and have it work? Do updates break things?
  - CuriouslyC 3y ago
    Take a look at https://appdb.winehq.org/ https://appdb.winehq.org/ for compatibility. Older software (even stuff like MS Office) often works well.
prmoustache 3y ago
> there's a lot of software people need and want to use This is mostly a mindset issue. A bit more than 2 decades ago I would have said you would have pried photoshop from my cold dead hands. Then I got fed up by a lot of things in this ecosystem, and I left it completely. I may not have access to the same applications, but I have access to decent applications that allows me to get the job done. And it applies to a very broad range of domains. There are a few exceptions of course, but rarely ones you encounter in a non professionnal setting. In these very few and rare use cases there are options: 1. wine if it works would be the preferred one 2. accessing an app running on a windows through rdp, either as a full desktop or as a standalone window.[1] OK granted you are still using windows in that case, in the background, but you can do that only sporadically by launching a cloud windows vm instance for the small amount of time in a year you definitely need that dirty OS for personnal use. Obviously YMMV but the barrier is mostly psychological imho. [1] I think there was a project to facilitate that for office, adobe applications called winapps, see the different active forks here: https://techgaun.github.io/active-forks/index.html#Fmstrat/winapps https://techgaun.github.io/active-forks/index.html#Fmstrat/w... there is also this: https://github.com/ne0YT/Linux-Subsystem-for-Windows_Seamless_windows_apps_on_Linux https://github.com/ne0YT/Linux-Subsystem-for-Windows_Seamles...
jrm4 3y ago
It is true that it can be difficult -- but, emphatically, no longer an excuse. The Steam Deck has shown that there are no essential technical barriers to rendering the Windows operating system irrelevant. This is good work, and it should be done.
- jrm4 3y ago
  Okay downvoters -- why am I wrong? Genuine question.

by tivert 3y ago

CuriouslyC 3y ago

It used to be that way, but now Linux has really good application compatibility. You can run the majority of apps using wine/proton, and ironically old hardware tends to be better supported in Linux.

tivert 3y ago
> You can run the majority of apps using wine/proton I've heard that, but I'm skeptical. I'm assuming "most apps" don't include MS Office. How much wrestling is involved? Can you just run a Windows installer and have it work? Do updates break things?
- CuriouslyC 3y ago
  Take a look at https://appdb.winehq.org/ https://appdb.winehq.org/ for compatibility. Older software (even stuff like MS Office) often works well.

prmoustache 3y ago

> there's a lot of software people need and want to use This is mostly a mindset issue. A bit more than 2 decades ago I would have said you would have pried photoshop from my cold dead hands. Then I got fed up by a lot of things in this ecosystem, and I left it completely. I may not have access to the same applications, but I have access to decent applications that allows me to get the job done. And it applies to a very broad range of domains. There are a few exceptions of course, but rarely ones you encounter in a non professionnal setting. In these very few and rare use cases there are options: 1. wine if it works would be the preferred one 2. accessing an app running on a windows through rdp, either as a full desktop or as a standalone window.[1] OK granted you are still using windows in that case, in the background, but you can do that only sporadically by launching a cloud windows vm instance for the small amount of time in a year you definitely need that dirty OS for personnal use. Obviously YMMV but the barrier is mostly psychological imho. [1] I think there was a project to facilitate that for office, adobe applications called winapps, see the different active forks here: https://techgaun.github.io/active-forks/index.html#Fmstrat/winapps https://techgaun.github.io/active-forks/index.html#Fmstrat/w... there is also this: https://github.com/ne0YT/Linux-Subsystem-for-Windows_Seamless_windows_apps_on_Linux https://github.com/ne0YT/Linux-Subsystem-for-Windows_Seamles...

jrm4 3y ago

It is true that it can be difficult -- but, emphatically, no longer an excuse. The Steam Deck has shown that there are no essential technical barriers to rendering the Windows operating system irrelevant. This is good work, and it should be done.

jrm4 3y ago
Okay downvoters -- why am I wrong? Genuine question.