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There are interesting stories about a device allowing the user - the Vatican - to peer back through time. Called the Chronovisor. Curious times.

• nyokodo 3y ago
  > a device allowing the user - the Vatican - to peer back through time There should be a Godwin’s law like principle where anytime a conspiracy theory mentions the Vatican the conversation ends. The sheer number of paranoid/delusional/motivated conspiracy theories involving the Vatican makes my eyes roll. There are a few well documented conspiracies involving the Vatican, but they weren’t kept secret for very long because the place is so full of people with wildly different linguistic, cultural, and political influences that there’s not enough cohesion to ensure secrecy in very much.
  • postexitus 3y ago
    Thank you nyokodo, payment for your services has been credited to your wallet. Love, Pope
• mcpackieh 3y ago
  > a device allowing the user - the Vatican - to peer back through time In fact they have many such devices, although the fidelity and reliability of the information they provide leaves something to be desired. They call these devices "books".
• tptacek 3y ago
  Yes, exactly, excellent example. Imagine someone earnestly arguing that the Vatican possessed a Chronovisor, and had used it to watch the crucifixion of Jesus, or the speeches of Cicero on the Senate floor. How seriously would you take that person's disclosures about Pentagon programs they heard about secondhand? That's the situation you're in with David Grusch.