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> I got a Windows Notification the other day while playing a game telling me about a "Grand prize giveaway" > Nope, not malware. Just Windows. Yeah, I got one
by tivert 3y ago
> I got a Windows Notification the other day while playing a game telling me about a "Grand prize giveaway"
> Nope, not malware. Just Windows.
Yeah, I got one the other day promoting some game or game studio.
Honestly, there outta be a law. We don't need this kind of "innovation."
- thfuran 3y agoWe should ban advertising with only very narrow exceptions.
- falcolas 3y agoNo exceptions, particularly when it comes to your operating systems. Apple does it. Canonical does it. Windows does it. Google does it (kinda a duh, I agree). Stop this madness.
- rendang 3y agoI think parent meant ban all advertising - buses, billboards, TV, etc
- thfuran 3y agoYes, I mean all advertisement, with exceptions like being able advertise on a business's own premises or upon explicit request like signing up for a newsletter (on purpose, not due to dark pattern fuckery). But no jamming third party advertisements everywhere imaginable or first party advertisement into products that aren't just ads.
- tivert 3y agoHonestly, I'd take a slightly different tack: ban all advertising except that which focuses on product features (like a lot of old-timey ads did), and then have strong enforcement of penalties for false advertising. Then limit innovation in delivery to places where it's both not intrusive and already established (e.g. media publications, etc). The manipulation and excessive proliferation has to stop, but I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with a business being able to reach out to tell people about what they're selling. There just needs to be strong regulation to speak for other interests in society.
- thfuran 3y ago>and then have strong enforcement of penalties for false advertising. The legality of puffery is ridiculous.
- falcolas 3y agoI have to be honest, it doesn't change my answer. Advertising is a multi-billion dollar industry who spends millions yearly on figuring out how to manipulate us into buying things we don't need. The average person has no chance against this manipulation. So yes, burn it all to the ground.
- macintux 3y agoBanning all advertising would also destroy many small businesses. Interstate billboards are a nuisance, no doubt, but I can’t tell you how many roadside markets, small restaurants, etc I’ve visited while traveling that I’d never have known about otherwise.
- thfuran 3y agoIf a business cannot exist without polluting the commons, should it really exist?
- macintux 3y agoA customer base doesn’t spring from the aether.
- falcolas 3y agoThat doesn't imply it should be manufactured out of false need though. Companies have proven too irresponsible to let the industry continue.
- thfuran 3y agoSo what? Society should be structured for the benefit of the people rather than corporations, which are only useful to the extent that they benefit people. We don't need or want all possible businesses, just the ones that are sufficiently useful without being too harmful.
- mrguyorama 3y agoFunny, billboards have been banned here in Maine for decades, and small businesses do very very well in this tourist driven economy. Meanwhile you cross the border to new hampshire and are immediately pestered with garbage advertising that provides no benefit to your life.
- phendrenad2 3y agoNo, there shouldn't be a law, unless you intend to outlaw in-app advertising entirely, which will make a lot of people sad that there are no free smartphone games anymore, but okay.
- theamk 3y agoThe easiest way is to stop using Windows. Either Microsoft sees decrease in users and rolls back ads; or its keeps pushing on and makes things even worse. Either way, you no longer see the ads.
- tivert 3y ago> The easiest way is to stop using Windows. Either Microsoft sees decrease in users and rolls back ads; or its keeps pushing on and makes things even worse. Either way, you no longer see the ads. That's only easy if I have infinite time to take up a big personal IT migration project, which I don't. I've got other stuff that's much more important. So does everyone else. Which is why market solutions to stuff like this don't work. The market doesn't solve for best or even good, it solves for "not so crappy you don't buy it."
- NiloCK 3y ago(modulo assumptions based on your being a reader of this site) - installing a dual boot linux on your existing Windows machine will take you a couple of hours. 2 <<< ∞
- tivert 3y ago> (modulo assumptions based on your being a reader of this site) - installing a dual boot linux on your existing Windows machine will take you a couple of hours. Doing a fresh install of something is like the smallest, most insignificant amount of work involved when doing a migration. 99% of the needed time will be solving dozens of problems like "can I get my P-touch label maker working with Linux," and if can I, does the solution actually meet my needs?
- tremon 3y agoThe journey of a thousand miles starts with a single step.
- abirch 3y ago