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I wonder if low quality scams (made by humans) are still going to be a thing given advances in AI. I bet a human sounding bot can already make a phone call and

by brap 3y ago

I wonder if low quality scams (made by humans) are still going to be a thing given advances in AI. I bet a human sounding bot can already make a phone call and scam most of our grandparents far better than the average human scammer. Add the ability to mimic the voice of a relative and you can get pretty high success rates, even with more tech-savvy victims I bet.

1-6 3y ago
Eventually, it's going there but at the moment, people are mostly using low-tech methods to scam others. Oftentimes we'll overestimate/underestimate the abilities of scammers. It's important to realize that access to cloud services and sophisticated AI requires money for that infrastructure and these paltry scammers won't do that unless it's a part of a bigger org.
- brap 3y ago
  I'm guessing that most of these scams are coming from large orgs as described in the OP/comments, this seems like a fairly expensive operation. I'm also guessing that for about the same cost they could use AI to cast a much wider net, making it more profitable even if the quality is lower. The paltry individual scammers will probably go out of business soon.
slig 3y ago
Low quality and obvious scams are a feature, they filter only the most gullible.
- brap 3y ago
  I think you only need to filter when your scale is very limited due to the effort involved. A human can only make so many calls per day. AI makes these attempts much cheaper.
  - lacrimacida 3y ago
    I think AI chatbots will lift these scams to a new level never seen before without any telltale signs that we can spot.
    - costco 3y ago
      Well, maybe it can fix the grammatical mistakes and inconsistencies in their stories. There still remains the fact that this person you've never met before is suggesting you send hundreds of thousands of dollars to this great investment platform you've never heard of and is very interested in you yet can't meet up despite have talked for weeks.
lr4444lr 3y ago
First it was Kenyan academic ghost writers for hire, now AI putting traffickers out or business too? What's this world coming to....
- brap 3y ago
  Sadly I don't expect things will get better for the trafficked victims, this only lowers their "value" in the eyes of criminals. They will probably find even worse uses for them.
aunth067 3y ago
it's already happening at scale, there was a 60 minutes segment on this recently https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-being-targeted-by-grandparent-scam-sounds-like-60-minutes/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-being-targeted-by-grandpar... The "ethical hacker" shows them how to use an AI to spoof the 60 minutes host's voice, then use it to scam a 60 minutes employee on camera, in real time. It works.

by brap 3y ago

1-6 3y ago

Eventually, it's going there but at the moment, people are mostly using low-tech methods to scam others. Oftentimes we'll overestimate/underestimate the abilities of scammers. It's important to realize that access to cloud services and sophisticated AI requires money for that infrastructure and these paltry scammers won't do that unless it's a part of a bigger org.

brap 3y ago
I'm guessing that most of these scams are coming from large orgs as described in the OP/comments, this seems like a fairly expensive operation. I'm also guessing that for about the same cost they could use AI to cast a much wider net, making it more profitable even if the quality is lower. The paltry individual scammers will probably go out of business soon.

slig 3y ago

Low quality and obvious scams are a feature, they filter only the most gullible.

brap 3y ago
I think you only need to filter when your scale is very limited due to the effort involved. A human can only make so many calls per day. AI makes these attempts much cheaper.
- lacrimacida 3y ago
  I think AI chatbots will lift these scams to a new level never seen before without any telltale signs that we can spot.
  - costco 3y ago
    Well, maybe it can fix the grammatical mistakes and inconsistencies in their stories. There still remains the fact that this person you've never met before is suggesting you send hundreds of thousands of dollars to this great investment platform you've never heard of and is very interested in you yet can't meet up despite have talked for weeks.

lr4444lr 3y ago

First it was Kenyan academic ghost writers for hire, now AI putting traffickers out or business too? What's this world coming to....

brap 3y ago
Sadly I don't expect things will get better for the trafficked victims, this only lowers their "value" in the eyes of criminals. They will probably find even worse uses for them.

aunth067 3y ago

it's already happening at scale, there was a 60 minutes segment on this recently https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-being-targeted-by-grandparent-scam-sounds-like-60-minutes/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-being-targeted-by-grandpar... The "ethical hacker" shows them how to use an AI to spoof the 60 minutes host's voice, then use it to scam a 60 minutes employee on camera, in real time. It works.