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What is tinder doing to facilitate this? I assumed bots on there were just financial scam bots not of the trafficking kind

by naillo 3y ago

Nextgrid 3y ago
"bots" don't run on their own. While the initial message might be from a bot, leads need to then be coached into falling for the scam which involves human labor and can very well be such enslaved victims trapped in third-world countries.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  As soon as sam altman hears about this he will make a proposal about replacing scam humans with ai. Which in itself is better than trafficking humans i suppose.
  - throwaway67743 3y ago
    AI can't feel suffering, after all.
    - gumballindie 3y ago
      Indeed. It's usually those around it that feel it.
      - throwaway67743 3y ago
        ai is literally the human equivalent of a sociopath and/or narcissist, it's devoid of human emotion
  - sp332 3y ago
    Training AI also requires lots of human labor. https://gizmodo.com/openai-chatgpt-ai-chat-bot-1850001021 https://gizmodo.com/openai-chatgpt-ai-chat-bot-1850001021
- throwaway67743 3y ago
  Correct, I did some research into this, while the initial match is automated, you're connected with someone likely under duress, Tinder/Match do not care about this at all (in my present country its 80%+ profiles that are evidently human trafficking and extortion). After asking what they intend to do about the horrific rights violations they're profiting off, they said, "we don't care" literally. There is also the collateral, the profiles/photos they steal are of real people, which may or may not end up in real life ramifications for them. It used to be entirely generic Asians (Orient, not SE, as they're more attractive to the west apparently) - but these days they've upped the game and use region specific photos (ie; in my case, Slavic origin)
popularonion 3y ago
Tinder has become totally swarmed with these kind of scammers. It’s way worse than it was a few years ago. It’s becoming basically unusable unless you communicate with photo verified users only, but I’m sure a lot of photo verified accounts are run by these scammers too.
- throwaway67743 3y ago
  Yup, the verification works against regular users and in favour of automation. But that's a good business model for them, without impossibly attractive potential matches nobody would pay for anything, so they have no financial desire to stop it.

What is tinder doing to facilitate this? I assumed bots on there were just financial scam bots not of the trafficking kind

by naillo 3y ago

What is tinder doing to facilitate this? I assumed bots on there were just financial scam bots not of the trafficking kind

Nextgrid 3y ago

"bots" don't run on their own. While the initial message might be from a bot, leads need to then be coached into falling for the scam which involves human labor and can very well be such enslaved victims trapped in third-world countries.

gumballindie 3y ago
As soon as sam altman hears about this he will make a proposal about replacing scam humans with ai. Which in itself is better than trafficking humans i suppose.
- throwaway67743 3y ago
  AI can't feel suffering, after all.
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    Indeed. It's usually those around it that feel it.
    - throwaway67743 3y ago
      ai is literally the human equivalent of a sociopath and/or narcissist, it's devoid of human emotion
- sp332 3y ago
  Training AI also requires lots of human labor. https://gizmodo.com/openai-chatgpt-ai-chat-bot-1850001021 https://gizmodo.com/openai-chatgpt-ai-chat-bot-1850001021
throwaway67743 3y ago
Correct, I did some research into this, while the initial match is automated, you're connected with someone likely under duress, Tinder/Match do not care about this at all (in my present country its 80%+ profiles that are evidently human trafficking and extortion). After asking what they intend to do about the horrific rights violations they're profiting off, they said, "we don't care" literally. There is also the collateral, the profiles/photos they steal are of real people, which may or may not end up in real life ramifications for them. It used to be entirely generic Asians (Orient, not SE, as they're more attractive to the west apparently) - but these days they've upped the game and use region specific photos (ie; in my case, Slavic origin)

popularonion 3y ago

Tinder has become totally swarmed with these kind of scammers. It’s way worse than it was a few years ago. It’s becoming basically unusable unless you communicate with photo verified users only, but I’m sure a lot of photo verified accounts are run by these scammers too.

throwaway67743 3y ago
Yup, the verification works against regular users and in favour of automation. But that's a good business model for them, without impossibly attractive potential matches nobody would pay for anything, so they have no financial desire to stop it.