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My decision to move to Mac when the M1 came out is starting to pay more and more dividends!

by FredPret 3y ago

cgeier 3y ago
What does using a Mac have to do with the article?
- baz00 3y ago
  Well avoiding the problem to start with is a perfectly good solution.
  - horsawlarway 3y ago
    Apple avoids the problem of not respecting my browser choice how, exactly? Apple open webviews in Safari, does not respect the user's choice at all, and doesn't even allow you to install a non-safari browser on their mobile OS. This is like peak irony. Apple is the walking definition of this problem.
    - fh9302 3y ago
      Why are you comparing a desktop operating system to a mobile operating system? On macOS Apple lets you trivially set a different default browser and doesn't annoy you about it.
      - deleted 3y ago
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- yomlica8 3y ago
  What I've learned about tech tribalism arguments is that for some reason some one else doing something first means you can't be mad about it when it happens again. Its like if you cheated on your wife and told her she can't get mad because your neighbor cheated on his wife first. Somehow that is a rebuttal even though she was never married to the neighbor and may have even started dating you in the first place because you didn't cheat.
horsawlarway 3y ago
I mean... this is a hugely ironic comment given the topic is discussing respect for the user's desired browser. Something Apple does considerably worse than Microsoft, intentionally and purposefully - entirely for control and profit, mostly to maintain their app store taxes.
- lloeki 3y ago
  Is there a place I missed where macOS does not respect the user's default browser setting? (I'm using work-mandated Chrome as default on work laptop, never had an instance of Safari opening) (can't comment on iOS since I use Safari there, but then TFA is about Windows 11 i.e desktop-side)
  - sofixa 3y ago
    I've had Safari open itself a couple of times when clicking useless Apple links (I think in settings with more info?). Also, if i click the play button on my keyboard without anything recent to play, it will open the piece of shit that is Apple Music that I have never used nor opened by myself. If I open a document or spreadsheet in the default installed apps, saving them will save them in the proprietary shitty Apple formats, instead of the one it came in (thus creating a second document instead of updating the original). In a similar vein, multiple things any other OS and Desktop Environment has, such as different scroll direction between mouse and touchpad, custom keybindings, basic window management features, Display Port daisy chaining over USB C (non-thunderbolt) macOS doesn't just because the gods of Apple have decided you don't need to have them, because fuck you. I can go on, but macOS is not an OS that respects users or user choice.
    - skydhash 3y ago
      It respects user choice where there’s a choice to be made. Most of your examples seems to points to things that are not included by design.
      - sofixa 3y ago
janandonly 3y ago
I agree. I have Firefox, Chrome, Tor Browser and Brave running next to my current browser of preference, Safari. But switching back and forth is easy, and macOS respects my choice when I change the settings.

My decision to move to Mac when the M1 came out is starting to pay more and more dividends!

cgeier 3y ago

What does using a Mac have to do with the article?

baz00 3y ago
Well avoiding the problem to start with is a perfectly good solution.
- horsawlarway 3y ago
  Apple avoids the problem of not respecting my browser choice how, exactly? Apple open webviews in Safari, does not respect the user's choice at all, and doesn't even allow you to install a non-safari browser on their mobile OS. This is like peak irony. Apple is the walking definition of this problem.
  - fh9302 3y ago
    Why are you comparing a desktop operating system to a mobile operating system? On macOS Apple lets you trivially set a different default browser and doesn't annoy you about it.
    - deleted 3y ago
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yomlica8 3y ago
What I've learned about tech tribalism arguments is that for some reason some one else doing something first means you can't be mad about it when it happens again. Its like if you cheated on your wife and told her she can't get mad because your neighbor cheated on his wife first. Somehow that is a rebuttal even though she was never married to the neighbor and may have even started dating you in the first place because you didn't cheat.

horsawlarway 3y ago

I mean... this is a hugely ironic comment given the topic is discussing respect for the user's desired browser. Something Apple does considerably worse than Microsoft, intentionally and purposefully - entirely for control and profit, mostly to maintain their app store taxes.

lloeki 3y ago
Is there a place I missed where macOS does not respect the user's default browser setting? (I'm using work-mandated Chrome as default on work laptop, never had an instance of Safari opening) (can't comment on iOS since I use Safari there, but then TFA is about Windows 11 i.e desktop-side)
- sofixa 3y ago
  I've had Safari open itself a couple of times when clicking useless Apple links (I think in settings with more info?). Also, if i click the play button on my keyboard without anything recent to play, it will open the piece of shit that is Apple Music that I have never used nor opened by myself. If I open a document or spreadsheet in the default installed apps, saving them will save them in the proprietary shitty Apple formats, instead of the one it came in (thus creating a second document instead of updating the original). In a similar vein, multiple things any other OS and Desktop Environment has, such as different scroll direction between mouse and touchpad, custom keybindings, basic window management features, Display Port daisy chaining over USB C (non-thunderbolt) macOS doesn't just because the gods of Apple have decided you don't need to have them, because fuck you. I can go on, but macOS is not an OS that respects users or user choice.
  - skydhash 3y ago
    It respects user choice where there’s a choice to be made. Most of your examples seems to points to things that are not included by design.
    - sofixa 3y ago

janandonly 3y ago

I agree. I have Firefox, Chrome, Tor Browser and Brave running next to my current browser of preference, Safari. But switching back and forth is easy, and macOS respects my choice when I change the settings.