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I see this take as completely out of touch. It seems like you come from an entirely different world. Have you ever had to use the McDonald's apps for deals chea

I see this take as completely out of touch. It seems like you come from an entirely different world. Have you ever had to use the McDonald's apps for deals cheap enough to afford dinner? I love to cook and it generally saves me a lot of money but I've still been put in this situation before. Not eating garbage? That's a luxury not everyone can afford. Yes, many can afford it and still do so but that isn't all that is happening. When it comes to debt sometimes you have to. I had the option to stay where I was where I would still be making <$10/hr or take on student loan debt for a chance to have a better life. I drive a hunk of junk I paid $300 that makes me feel unsafe every time I get in it. It wobbles to hell and I have to deathgrip it to maintain control. It's probably endangering everyone on the road too. But that's what I can afford at this point in my life. Although I'd rather not own one at all because it causes a lot of financial stress to maintain. I don't buy much beyond the essentials and it's taken me a decade of constant effort to get to even this point. I've also been incredibly fortunate in many ways. There are a lot of people much worse off.

gabereiser 3y ago
I grew up poor, by every measure I still am. However, I don’t have the debt that others do. It’s actually cheaper to eat healthy than eat McDonald’s. I’m not talking Non-GMO, certified organic overpriced food for a guilt sale. I mean cans, beans, rice, flour, etc. Those who are struggling are continuing to attempt to do the same thing and it isn’t working for them. If you worked hard for a decade, without getting anywhere, whose fault is that? Society for keeping you down? Or you for staying so long? Everything is constant effort. I’m not talking FIRE movement, I’m just saying you don’t need that TV. You don’t need that Apple Watch. You don’t need that Tesla. I realize making atonement for your financial troubles is going to hurt even more. The other option is, like many here, start a company. I do know that it was extremely painful for me to become debt free, it’s still a struggle not to fall into it for all the reasons you describe. I choose to ignore ads, not watch media, ignore the pressures to buy buy buy, and I’m doing fine. Not rich, but not hurting anymore.

gabereiser 3y ago

I grew up poor, by every measure I still am. However, I don’t have the debt that others do. It’s actually cheaper to eat healthy than eat McDonald’s. I’m not talking Non-GMO, certified organic overpriced food for a guilt sale. I mean cans, beans, rice, flour, etc. Those who are struggling are continuing to attempt to do the same thing and it isn’t working for them. If you worked hard for a decade, without getting anywhere, whose fault is that? Society for keeping you down? Or you for staying so long? Everything is constant effort. I’m not talking FIRE movement, I’m just saying you don’t need that TV. You don’t need that Apple Watch. You don’t need that Tesla. I realize making atonement for your financial troubles is going to hurt even more. The other option is, like many here, start a company. I do know that it was extremely painful for me to become debt free, it’s still a struggle not to fall into it for all the reasons you describe. I choose to ignore ads, not watch media, ignore the pressures to buy buy buy, and I’m doing fine. Not rich, but not hurting anymore.