>There are several languages on the JVM which are that or better. As fast as C, no... Like what? None of the ones i know of meet the "expressive, flexible and

>There are several languages on the JVM which are that or better. As fast as C, no... Like what? None of the ones i know of meet the "expressive, flexible and easy to learn as python" test. > There's this myth that Python as a language is superior to JS. In reality both have their long history and warts. JS/V8 is just much faster. I never said anything about being better or worse, just that as far as i know there's nothing about JS which makes it much easier to optimise than python. I'm not arguing that python is the best thing to use for everything, or that there are no faster languages; that clearly isn't the case. The topic is "why is python popular", you're arguing that it's too slow and it's too much effort to speed up code, while I'm arguing that there are no languages which are faster, and don't give up some of the things that made python popular in the first place.