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Mostly unfounded. All these articles telling you how totally safe it is to ingest artificial chemical xyz remind me of how companies were telling you it was fi

by seper8 3y ago

Mostly unfounded. All these articles telling you how totally safe it is to ingest artificial chemical xyz remind me of how companies were telling you it was fine, even healthy, to smoke cigarettes. The degree of arrogance with which these scientists state their truths is confounding. Meanwhile chronic illnesses and cancer rates are skyrocketing. I'll pass on the industrial byproducts being used in my food, thanks.

s_dev 3y ago
>I'll pass on the industrial byproducts being used in my food, thanks. Is this even possible? Can you define industrial byproduct? Like even if you go to a typical Western grocery store and buy a single apple and then eat it. It was covered in a thin layer of wax to prolong its shelf life. Likewise if you buy a potato it might have trace amounts of industrial produced material in it from industrial farming.
- BrandonS113 3y ago
  yes, the book Ultra-Processed People https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/books/review/ultra-processed-people-chris-van-tulleken.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/books/review/ultra-proces... does that quite well.
ChatGTP 3y ago
I'm the same, I like cola though so I ust have a regular coke 1/4 times a month.
conception 3y ago
Cancer rates are dropping not skyrocketing. https://gis.cdc.gov/Cancer/USCS/#/Trends/ https://gis.cdc.gov/Cancer/USCS/#/Trends/
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- seper8 3y ago
  Overall yes, but under 50 the story is different. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/09/researchers-report-dramatic-rise-in-early-onset-cancers/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/09/researchers-r... Dramatic rise in cancer in people under 50
  - conception 3y ago
    “The team acknowledged that this increased incidence of certain cancer types is, in part, due to early detection through cancer screening programs. They couldn’t precisely measure what proportion of this growing prevalence could solely be attributed to screening and early detection. “ If the US is flat but global is rising pretty easy to explain by (poorer) diets and detection. These scientists don’t know why but that’d be my null hypothesis to beat.
ghosty141 3y ago
The problem is that we eat so much sugar that its really hard to not overshoot the recommended max. sugar intake of ~30-50 gramms per day. Thats 2-3 glasses of juice or one bar of chocolate. If your diet is good and you are around or below this „threshold“ then yeah no reason for artificial sweeteners, but many people (including me) enjoy sugary products and would like to drink a glass of coke for example with dinner which would limit my sugar intake for that day greatly.

by seper8 3y ago

s_dev 3y ago

>I'll pass on the industrial byproducts being used in my food, thanks. Is this even possible? Can you define industrial byproduct? Like even if you go to a typical Western grocery store and buy a single apple and then eat it. It was covered in a thin layer of wax to prolong its shelf life. Likewise if you buy a potato it might have trace amounts of industrial produced material in it from industrial farming.

BrandonS113 3y ago
yes, the book Ultra-Processed People https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/books/review/ultra-processed-people-chris-van-tulleken.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/07/books/review/ultra-proces... does that quite well.

ChatGTP 3y ago

I'm the same, I like cola though so I ust have a regular coke 1/4 times a month.

conception 3y ago

Cancer rates are dropping not skyrocketing. https://gis.cdc.gov/Cancer/USCS/#/Trends/ https://gis.cdc.gov/Cancer/USCS/#/Trends/

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seper8 3y ago
Overall yes, but under 50 the story is different. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/09/researchers-report-dramatic-rise-in-early-onset-cancers/ https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/09/researchers-r... Dramatic rise in cancer in people under 50
- conception 3y ago
  “The team acknowledged that this increased incidence of certain cancer types is, in part, due to early detection through cancer screening programs. They couldn’t precisely measure what proportion of this growing prevalence could solely be attributed to screening and early detection. “ If the US is flat but global is rising pretty easy to explain by (poorer) diets and detection. These scientists don’t know why but that’d be my null hypothesis to beat.

ghosty141 3y ago

The problem is that we eat so much sugar that its really hard to not overshoot the recommended max. sugar intake of ~30-50 gramms per day. Thats 2-3 glasses of juice or one bar of chocolate. If your diet is good and you are around or below this „threshold“ then yeah no reason for artificial sweeteners, but many people (including me) enjoy sugary products and would like to drink a glass of coke for example with dinner which would limit my sugar intake for that day greatly.