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Agile always was the answer to that nagging project manager asking “When will it be done?” By engaging with an answer the engineers kept being part of the disc
by 28304283409234 3y ago
Agile always was the answer to that nagging project manager asking “When will it be done?”
By engaging with an answer the engineers kept being part of the discussion.
Instead, they should have said: you don’t get to ask that question. That question has no place here. Engage with us in building the product and let us create and enjoy!
Of course, the real world needs deadlines, timelines, roadmaps. And thus, agile is pointless. As it is just waterfall. In a different colour.
- ranguna 3y agoAnd then the project manager fires everyone and hires a team that gives them the answers they want. Even though most of the time the answers were wrong, but by that time the project manager is already neck deep with dependencies around the new team. That's why we can't have nice things. You depend on having nice project managers, which is rarely the case.
- switch007 3y agoYup. Every single organisation I’ve worked at just paid lip service to the whole “you need to be involved in the process” observation. Unfortunately in my career I’ve only ever seen execs recede further and further away, hiring more and more PMs to replace them in that task. The self aggrandisement is getting worse and worse. They go away for retreat camps, and strategy meet-ups etc and pat themselves on the back about doing Very Important Work for weeks after each event Here it’s a class thing. They see themselves aligned with the capitalist owners more than the “factory workers” (the devs)
- esafak 3y agoManagers should be predicting and controlling the delivery time by clearing organizational roadblocks and shaping the work to be done, not how it is done.