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Honestly I've never seen a waterfall model implemented without iterations. And you can always update the top-spec at later date if needed its just more difficul
by mrmlz 3y ago
Honestly I've never seen a waterfall model implemented without iterations. And you can always update the top-spec at later date if needed its just more difficult.. Which it should be.
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y ago> Honestly I've never seen a waterfall model implemented without iterations. I have. It didn't reach the end.
- mrmlz 3y agoYeah - I mean, when I wrote the comment I ignored all the absolute disaster-projects I've seen. But those where doomed on so many levels I don't even wanna blame waterfall or agile or the in-betweens.
- SideburnsOfDoom 3y agoSo, "if you ignore the ones without iterations, I've never seen a waterfall model implemented without iterations."
- mrmlz 3y agoHah yeah i guess you can interpret it like that, but i give the same leeway to agile when they skip the retros and the planning before the sprints etc. You cant blame the process if you dont even make an attempt of adhering to it :)
- CRConrad 3y agoWe can't be sure there wouldn't have been any iterations. In (what's traditionally been called) the waterfall model, there's so long between iterations that the project has time to fail and be scrapped before there ever is one.
- kibibu 3y agoPeople should read Royce's paper that popularised Waterfall. It has iterations, sadly it appears most people stopped reading after Figure 2. https://www.praxisframework.org/files/royce1970.pdf https://www.praxisframework.org/files/royce1970.pdf
- The_Colonel 3y agoI have seen exactly that - no iterations. Mostly it was customer waiting for the finished product and that was the first time they've seen it. As an improvement, sometimes the project management *forced* the customer to make some checkpoints along the way, but they were a far cry from real iterations.
- JohnFen 3y agoThis. When agile folk talk about waterfall, they're describing something that I've never seen in practice, even from far before "agile" was a thing.