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A "premise" is part of a logical argument. You want to say "premises", which refers to a location. I'm sorry to be that person.

gorgoiler 3y ago
Not everyone speaks English as a first language. It’s a Show HN too. No need to say sorry!
rob74 3y ago
TIL that "premises" is plural-only if you want to refer to a location. I might have made that mistake as well (also not a native speaker) - and it's one of those that spellcheckers don't catch...
d1sxeyes 3y ago
This is not correct. 'On premise' (normally hyphenated) refers to servers hosted by the same organisation as the application owner, and is opposed to cloud. It is correct to say that an application runs 'on premise', if it can be self-hosted (often 'on premise' or 'on prem' does not literally mean that the server is on the same premises as the company's headquarters, just that the company manage the server).
- sbuttgereit 3y ago
  Having looked this up in a couple dictionaries now, the person you're responding to is absolutely correct in their objection. The word "premise" is misused in "on premise" speaking of computers running at a owner's location. I don't think the distinction of it referring to a literal location or metaphorical location (managed by an owner at a different location) matters. While this might change over time and with on-going vernacular usage, but as of now: our industry is misusing the word. Including myself (until now).
  - d1sxeyes 3y ago
    While the person I'm responding to may be upset that 'premise' seems to be acquiring a second meaning in this specific circumstance, they are almost certainly not correct that OP 'want[s]' to say premises. OP almost certainly said exactly what they intended to say. The use of 'on-premise' rather than 'on-premises' even in formal texts is at least 200 years old (examples below). How much time should it take for us to accept "on-premise", rather than "on-premises"? (https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Records_and_Briefs_of_the_United_States/4EbRftoz0Y0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22on-premise%22&pg=RA1-PA70&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Records_and_Briefs_of_th..., https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Documents/3jIbAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22on-premise%22&dq=%22on-premise%22&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Documents/3jIbAQAAIAAJ?h..., https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Council_Proceedings/rLroAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22on-premise%22&dq=%22on-premise%22&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Council_Proceedings/rLro...).
dang 3y ago
Fixed now. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37326998 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37326998.

gorgoiler 3y ago

Not everyone speaks English as a first language. It’s a Show HN too. No need to say sorry!

rob74 3y ago

TIL that "premises" is plural-only if you want to refer to a location. I might have made that mistake as well (also not a native speaker) - and it's one of those that spellcheckers don't catch...

d1sxeyes 3y ago

This is not correct. 'On premise' (normally hyphenated) refers to servers hosted by the same organisation as the application owner, and is opposed to cloud. It is correct to say that an application runs 'on premise', if it can be self-hosted (often 'on premise' or 'on prem' does not literally mean that the server is on the same premises as the company's headquarters, just that the company manage the server).

sbuttgereit 3y ago
Having looked this up in a couple dictionaries now, the person you're responding to is absolutely correct in their objection. The word "premise" is misused in "on premise" speaking of computers running at a owner's location. I don't think the distinction of it referring to a literal location or metaphorical location (managed by an owner at a different location) matters. While this might change over time and with on-going vernacular usage, but as of now: our industry is misusing the word. Including myself (until now).
- d1sxeyes 3y ago
  While the person I'm responding to may be upset that 'premise' seems to be acquiring a second meaning in this specific circumstance, they are almost certainly not correct that OP 'want[s]' to say premises. OP almost certainly said exactly what they intended to say. The use of 'on-premise' rather than 'on-premises' even in formal texts is at least 200 years old (examples below). How much time should it take for us to accept "on-premise", rather than "on-premises"? (https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Records_and_Briefs_of_the_United_States/4EbRftoz0Y0C?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22on-premise%22&pg=RA1-PA70&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Records_and_Briefs_of_th..., https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Documents/3jIbAQAAIAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22on-premise%22&dq=%22on-premise%22&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Documents/3jIbAQAAIAAJ?h..., https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Council_Proceedings/rLroAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=%22on-premise%22&dq=%22on-premise%22&printsec=frontcover https://www.google.hu/books/edition/Council_Proceedings/rLro...).

dang 3y ago

Fixed now. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37326998 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37326998.