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> What's the argument against? Folks have been driven to suicide by targeted harassment and doxxing labeled "speech." No they haven't, not on Kiwi Farms anyhow

> What's the argument against? Folks have been driven to suicide by targeted harassment and doxxing labeled "speech." No they haven't, not on Kiwi Farms anyhow. This is a deliberate smear intended to justify any extrajudical action taken against the forum. The reality is that it's just a bunch of assholes gossiping about other assholes, and one asshole in particular is doing everything he can to eradicate the site because it has documented, amongst other horrible things, his confession of rape.

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> The reality is that it's just a bunch of assholes gossiping about other assholes Kiwi Farms has been more than just gossip. It's been used by people to harass people in the real world. People there have taken things way too far in the past, and that behavior has been encouraged and supported by the culture of the site. I don't think the forum should be silenced, but it's simply not accurate to say that it's nothing more than online gossip. It has at times been the source of outright harassment and abuse. I think we'd agree that it's an issue that needs to be handled with moderation and the law, but it's also a real problem.
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  > It's been used by people to harass people in the real world. And libraries have been used by people to learn effective methods to harass or harm others in the real world. Quick! Let's shut down all the libraries! > I think we'd agree that it's an issue that needs to be handled with moderation and the law, but it's also a real problem. We already have such a law. It's called Section 230. Forum operators should not be subject to tortious interference, criminal harassment, or other manner of extrajudicial punishment because they choose to exercise speech that you find repugnant.
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    The operator of the forum has made harassing statements himself, and he has already lost his section 230 protections. The first lawsuit or prosecution that comes his way will take this into account.
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  You're probably being auto-flagged. Seems to be a feature intended to stop perpetually misbehaving users. Such as, ones who keep posting the same comment again and again and again for whatever weird obsessive reason. Or maybe it's just someone with very fast flagging fingers sweeping the new comments list. > How about this then, I suggest, in order to both demonstrate freedom of speech and to entertain fans of KiwiFarms like content we create a KiwiFarms like site based on studying and publishing public facts on popular KiwiFarms members. Sure, why not. Are there any potentially entertaining or ridiculous ones you have in mind, such that you feel it would be worth your efforts?
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> The reality is that it's just a bunch of assholes gossiping about other assholes Kiwi Farms has been more than just gossip. It's been used by people to harass people in the real world. People there have taken things way too far in the past, and that behavior has been encouraged and supported by the culture of the site. I don't think the forum should be silenced, but it's simply not accurate to say that it's nothing more than online gossip. It has at times been the source of outright harassment and abuse. I think we'd agree that it's an issue that needs to be handled with moderation and the law, but it's also a real problem.

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> It's been used by people to harass people in the real world. And libraries have been used by people to learn effective methods to harass or harm others in the real world. Quick! Let's shut down all the libraries! > I think we'd agree that it's an issue that needs to be handled with moderation and the law, but it's also a real problem. We already have such a law. It's called Section 230. Forum operators should not be subject to tortious interference, criminal harassment, or other manner of extrajudicial punishment because they choose to exercise speech that you find repugnant.
- chonkerz 3y ago
  The operator of the forum has made harassing statements himself, and he has already lost his section 230 protections. The first lawsuit or prosecution that comes his way will take this into account.

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jubbajibba 3y ago
You're probably being auto-flagged. Seems to be a feature intended to stop perpetually misbehaving users. Such as, ones who keep posting the same comment again and again and again for whatever weird obsessive reason. Or maybe it's just someone with very fast flagging fingers sweeping the new comments list. > How about this then, I suggest, in order to both demonstrate freedom of speech and to entertain fans of KiwiFarms like content we create a KiwiFarms like site based on studying and publishing public facts on popular KiwiFarms members. Sure, why not. Are there any potentially entertaining or ridiculous ones you have in mind, such that you feel it would be worth your efforts?

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