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cool, let’s sub that <100lb child with a >200lb adult. upset, naturally. happy?

graypegg 3y ago
Yeah actually, that’s much better. Adults have consequences, feel shame when people glare at them, and can be kicked off the flight before take off. I sit down on a flight, I roll with anything that goes wrong, and just focus on getting to where I’m going, like 80% of most adults on a plane. Babies on the other hand, I’m pretty sure that’s 0% of them with that sort of attitude.
- catchnear4321 3y ago
  oh goodness i do hope your luck holds.
  - graypegg 3y ago
    And I hope you find a little optimism in your life! You’re saying that in your experience, greater than 20% of adults on a flight are more problematic and annoying than a crying kid? I like to think I’m pretty realistic about things but I don’t ever think it’s been that bad for me! I might even go as far as to say that most of my flights have had no issues.
    - catchnear4321 3y ago
      then why so concerned about children? you seem to be optimistic about everything else.
    - midoridensha 3y ago
      >You’re saying that in your experience, greater than 20% of adults on a flight are more problematic and annoying than a crying kid? It depends on how many Americans are on board.
- Cyph0n 3y ago
  Well, unless you can afford to fly private, you’re just going to have to deal with the annoying babies. Because families need to get to places and the human race isn’t going to go extinct, at least not anytime soon. In the meantime, I’d recommend investing in a good pair of earbuds and/or headphones.
  - WeylandYutani 3y ago
    I always go on vacation outside the school holiday season. Mostly gays and older people in the plane and hotel.
  - saithound 3y ago
    That's optimistic: you're commenting under an article which suggests they might not have to deal with the annoying babies for long. Families should not take their ability to "get to places" for granted. If the people who don't want "annoying babies" on their planes accumulate enough disposable income that catering to their desires becomes more profitable than catering to families, the latter may find themselves out of luck when they "need to get to places", unless they themselves can afford to fly private. Of course, that's an extreme extrapolation; but on the margin, the introduction of child-free zones will certainly make air travel for families less affordable. If it turns out profitable, potentially by a lot.
    - Cyph0n 3y ago
      Very scary stuff. Families will probably soon have to drive over the Atlantic.
      - saithound 3y ago
        Yeah, hilarious, but in reality they just won't go. Just like e.g. most Indians never fly to the U.S. even if they have relatives living there. Or more fittingly, how most Hungarians used to be able to afford to go on a holiday near Lake Balaton until they were priced out by wealthier Germans, or middle-class families in Canberra used to be able to afford daycare but now only the top 3% by income do. I would not hold my breath about the state subsidizing cross-Atlantic trips for families.
- mensetmanusman 3y ago
  300 lb people in the center aisle with their VR headset on might not feel shame.

Yeah actually, that’s much better. Adults have consequences, feel shame when people glare at them, and can be kicked off the flight before take off. I sit down on a flight, I roll with anything that goes wrong, and just focus on getting to where I’m going, like 80% of most adults on a plane. Babies on the other hand, I’m pretty sure that’s 0% of them with that sort of attitude.

catchnear4321 3y ago
oh goodness i do hope your luck holds.
- graypegg 3y ago
  And I hope you find a little optimism in your life! You’re saying that in your experience, greater than 20% of adults on a flight are more problematic and annoying than a crying kid? I like to think I’m pretty realistic about things but I don’t ever think it’s been that bad for me! I might even go as far as to say that most of my flights have had no issues.
  - catchnear4321 3y ago
    then why so concerned about children? you seem to be optimistic about everything else.
  - midoridensha 3y ago
    >You’re saying that in your experience, greater than 20% of adults on a flight are more problematic and annoying than a crying kid? It depends on how many Americans are on board.
Cyph0n 3y ago
Well, unless you can afford to fly private, you’re just going to have to deal with the annoying babies. Because families need to get to places and the human race isn’t going to go extinct, at least not anytime soon. In the meantime, I’d recommend investing in a good pair of earbuds and/or headphones.
- WeylandYutani 3y ago
  I always go on vacation outside the school holiday season. Mostly gays and older people in the plane and hotel.
- saithound 3y ago
  That's optimistic: you're commenting under an article which suggests they might not have to deal with the annoying babies for long. Families should not take their ability to "get to places" for granted. If the people who don't want "annoying babies" on their planes accumulate enough disposable income that catering to their desires becomes more profitable than catering to families, the latter may find themselves out of luck when they "need to get to places", unless they themselves can afford to fly private. Of course, that's an extreme extrapolation; but on the margin, the introduction of child-free zones will certainly make air travel for families less affordable. If it turns out profitable, potentially by a lot.
  - Cyph0n 3y ago
    Very scary stuff. Families will probably soon have to drive over the Atlantic.
    - saithound 3y ago
      Yeah, hilarious, but in reality they just won't go. Just like e.g. most Indians never fly to the U.S. even if they have relatives living there. Or more fittingly, how most Hungarians used to be able to afford to go on a holiday near Lake Balaton until they were priced out by wealthier Germans, or middle-class families in Canberra used to be able to afford daycare but now only the top 3% by income do. I would not hold my breath about the state subsidizing cross-Atlantic trips for families.
mensetmanusman 3y ago
300 lb people in the center aisle with their VR headset on might not feel shame.