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Adults Only: European Airline Introduces Child-Free Areas on Long-Haul Flights
- pg_1234 3y agohttps://archive.ph/YL3J8 https://archive.ph/YL3J8
- catchnear4321 3y agoif it isn’t a child-free plane, the child-free areas are the cockpit (once the door is shut) and the cargo hold (hopefully always.) anyone who thinks a curtain can contain the sounds and/or smells of a toddler has never had one. and if you think children (or animals) are the only nuisance on planes, you’re likely the other kind.
- NavinF 3y agoPerfect is the enemy of good
- catchnear4321 3y agofalse advertising is the enemy of both.
- SkyPuncher 3y agoAn upset child 20 rows away is massive better than an upset child next to me.
- catchnear4321 3y agocool, let’s sub that <100lb child with a >200lb adult. upset, naturally. happy?
- graypegg 3y agoYeah actually, that’s much better. Adults have consequences, feel shame when people glare at them, and can be kicked off the flight before take off. I sit down on a flight, I roll with anything that goes wrong, and just focus on getting to where I’m going, like 80% of most adults on a plane. Babies on the other hand, I’m pretty sure that’s 0% of them with that sort of attitude.
- catchnear4321 3y agooh goodness i do hope your luck holds.
- graypegg 3y agoAnd I hope you find a little optimism in your life! You’re saying that in your experience, greater than 20% of adults on a flight are more problematic and annoying than a crying kid? I like to think I’m pretty realistic about things but I don’t ever think it’s been that bad for me! I might even go as far as to say that most of my flights have had no issues.
- catchnear4321 3y agothen why so concerned about children? you seem to be optimistic about everything else.
- midoridensha 3y ago>You’re saying that in your experience, greater than 20% of adults on a flight are more problematic and annoying than a crying kid? It depends on how many Americans are on board.
- Cyph0n 3y agoWell, unless you can afford to fly private, you’re just going to have to deal with the annoying babies. Because families need to get to places and the human race isn’t going to go extinct, at least not anytime soon. In the meantime, I’d recommend investing in a good pair of earbuds and/or headphones.
- supportengineer 3y agoI would be interested in the following other types of special flights: - Flights where no one is a first-time traveller, in fact you must have flown at least 20 times. - Flights with no overhead bins at all.
- thereisnospork 3y ago>- Flights where no one is a first-time traveller, in fact you must have flown at least 20 times. Can we expand that from flights to airports? And have 'training airports' for people to learn on?
- nikau 3y agoAnd a tasering for anyone standing close to the baggage carousel without their bag in sight ready to pick up.
- viewtransform 3y agoand the ones who leap from their seats the moment the plane touches down.
- yieldcrv 3y agomust have flown at least 5 times outside of a holiday weekend for leisure
- AlotOfReading 3y agoAirlines could easily solve the overhead delay issue by adopting their carry-on price structure for checked bags, they simply don't want to. Either way I'd still do carry-on even with a bag fee. Every time I've trusted an airline to handle bags they manage to violate that trust in new and exciting ways.
- c_o_n_v_e_x 3y agoOn a majority of flights that I'm on, someone always happens to sit in the wrong seat. Inevitably, a flight attendant then has to come over, usually against the flow of boarding passengers to sort out the situation. I don't know how to improve upon the existing signage. Maybe have a personalized interactive experience? When your ticket is scanned, lights in the floor guide you to your exact seat.
- antiquark 3y agoNow that they're allowed to discriminate on immutable characteristics, what's next?
- alphager 3y agoAge is pretty mutable (until death).
- alphager 3y agoAs a parent, I welcome this. Although a child-free area on a plane sounds about as effective as a non-peeing area in a public pool.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoSouth Korea tried this with restaurants: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/24/asia/south-korea-no-kids-zone-intl-hnk-dst/index.html https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/06/24/asia/south-korea-no-kids-... I do wonder if such policies are a cause or a symptom of a dying/declining society that can’t figure out how to propagate under existing norms.
- kshahkshah 3y agoYeah. I mean I am of two minds here. We flew to Mexico City a while ago with two young children, not complete babies but the youngest was still in diapers. We were THOSE parents with THOSE kid. No running around or kicking but they just could not stop crying. Small ear canals. Change of pressure. Too painful. On the other hand when we have traveled in heavily Spanish areas I’ve noticed most everyone was completely cool with the sounds of children. It’s just life and life is good. People would offer to have them sit with them and feed them so you can get a break. Complete strangers. I’d rather be the latter culture than the former. But we’ve no real unified cultural expectations in the US. A major problem. A great strength. I dunno anymore
- nilram 3y agoA crying child right next to me is difficult, but I've never blamed the parents. A crying child a couple rows away? Somehow relaxing to know someone else is having a worse flight than I am. (Either the kid or the parent.) It's just not the end of the world, and its temporary for both of us. Easier (for me) to accept than an adult playing a video without headphones.
- cyberlurker 3y agoOh, I would love if they charge a lot for this and subsidize the price of my ticket in economy. I wear noise cancellation headphones on flights anyway. The last flight I was on I saw two infants in first class not having a good day. I can imagine those who paid for first class were not happy. I thought about asking the flight attendant if anyone wanted to trade for my economy seat but decided against it. I didn’t want to annoy the flight attendant mostly.
- wl 3y agoNoise cancelling headphones do nothing for some kid kicking your seat from behind or a kid so squirmy he can't stay within the confines of his seat.
- cyberlurker 3y agoI’ve more frequently encountered adults who are too large encroaching into my seat, which irritates me more. My last experience was sitting between two extremely large body builders on a red eye. But sure, if that happens that could be annoying too.
- c_o_n_v_e_x 3y agoAs a parent, I'd be interested in family friendly long haul flights. Book rows together like what Air New Zealand has, have a designated play area where all the kids can get together and go nuts. I forget which airline it is, Emirates maybe?, you can hand your kid over to the flight attendant for 20 or 30 minutes so you can go to the toilet, have a quick meal, etc. which is very handy if you're travelling as a single parent.
- kylehotchkiss 3y agoEtihad (similar to emirates) used to offer flying nanny’s. That seemed more like a feature for people in the front end of the plane though.
- tb_technical 3y agoA crying baby can be distressing or distracting, but a giggling babbling baby brings a smile to my face. I say take the good with the bad.
- webworker 3y agoNoise canceling headphones can solve so many problems on an airplane. The noise canceling in AirPods Max made the price worth it... even after Apple reduced the effectiveness because they got sued for patent infringement. Far better spend than whatever elevated ticket price they'll be charging. One click of a button and your crying baby becomes solely _your_ problem. :P