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Their CO2 emissions per capita are the largest in Europe after Poland. What makes you say they do all the right moves?

by qsdf38100 3y ago

rurban 3y ago
Coal is being phased out, nuclear already out. Solar and wind is rising. The right moves are to get rid of the polluters, and switch to sustainable energy
- sBqQu3U0wH 3y ago
  >nuclear already out And how is this a "right move" exactly?
  - rurban 3y ago
    as long as you cannot get rid of the poison long-term, and cannot prevent multi-century poisoning in case of accidents, this is the right move. Just wait until you get your Diablo earthquake, and the whole Silicon Valley can shutdown. Exceptionalism game over.
    - qsdf38100 3y ago
      Even in case of multi century poisoning, the affected area is small. The more radioactive the isotope, the faster it decays, so the poisoning isn’t really multi century. Chernobyl, the worst accident to date, is negligible in terms of poisoned area, and environmental impact. Orders of magnitude less than poisoning from fossil fuels. Your point simply doesn’t stand scientifically. It’s an ideological position, fueled by fear and disinformation. If we had other options, maybe, but we are against the climate change wall, and Germany is the perfect example of what’s wrong with your reasoning. So, tell me, when do you think Germany energy policies are going to shine, with actual CO2 numbers? In 20 years? 50 years? I believe it’s never going to shine, because it doesn’t work if you do the math. Wind turbines and solar energy aren’t going to fulfill all energy needs alone, for many reasons. We’d need orders of magnitude more, not to mention energy storage. Germany has built lots of them, it’s been at least 20 years, and they are still very very far from being clean. As I said they are the worst after Poland. How can you even argue?

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Their CO2 emissions per capita are the largest in Europe after Poland. What makes you say they do all the right moves?

by qsdf38100 3y ago

Their CO2 emissions per capita are the largest in Europe after Poland. What makes you say they do all the right moves?

rurban 3y ago
Coal is being phased out, nuclear already out. Solar and wind is rising. The right moves are to get rid of the polluters, and switch to sustainable energy
- sBqQu3U0wH 3y ago
  >nuclear already out And how is this a "right move" exactly?
  - rurban 3y ago
    as long as you cannot get rid of the poison long-term, and cannot prevent multi-century poisoning in case of accidents, this is the right move. Just wait until you get your Diablo earthquake, and the whole Silicon Valley can shutdown. Exceptionalism game over.
    - qsdf38100 3y ago
      Even in case of multi century poisoning, the affected area is small. The more radioactive the isotope, the faster it decays, so the poisoning isn’t really multi century. Chernobyl, the worst accident to date, is negligible in terms of poisoned area, and environmental impact. Orders of magnitude less than poisoning from fossil fuels. Your point simply doesn’t stand scientifically. It’s an ideological position, fueled by fear and disinformation. If we had other options, maybe, but we are against the climate change wall, and Germany is the perfect example of what’s wrong with your reasoning. So, tell me, when do you think Germany energy policies are going to shine, with actual CO2 numbers? In 20 years? 50 years? I believe it’s never going to shine, because it doesn’t work if you do the math. Wind turbines and solar energy aren’t going to fulfill all energy needs alone, for many reasons. We’d need orders of magnitude more, not to mention energy storage. Germany has built lots of them, it’s been at least 20 years, and they are still very very far from being clean. As I said they are the worst after Poland. How can you even argue?