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Looks like a fantastic Linux laptop. A few minor remarks: 1. There seem to be minor issues around suspend (e.g., audio issues on resume, cannot yet disable su

by stncls 3y ago

Looks like a fantastic Linux laptop. A few minor remarks: 1. There seem to be minor issues around suspend (e.g., audio issues on resume, cannot yet disable suspend-on-lid-close [1]) 2. As noted in the article, this is not a "classic" Thinkpad. As a consequence, some "classic" Thinkpad things may not yet work on Linux (e.g. fan control [1]) As usual, always check the amazing Arch Wiki before any laptop purchase for Linux compatibility. [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_Z13 https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_Z13

nomel 3y ago
It's unfortunate that these are the same issues I had 18 years ago.
stncls 3y ago
For context (in case anyone thinks I'm nitpicking and all laptops are horribly supported on Linux): Basically everything works on the Thinkpad X1 Carbon [2], even the latest model (Gen11) as long as you buy the right one (no MIPI webcam). Unfortunately, Lenovo refuses to put AMD processors in X-series thinkpads (its top-of-the-line laptops). [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(Gen_11) https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(...
- rjh29 3y ago
  The T14s has AMD, is much cheaper and having owned both I can't really see a difference. Maybe a few mm thicker.
  - nine_k 3y ago
    The T series and the W series are the only Thinkpads I ever considered. They are built to be maintainable and somehow upgradable. The sleeker X series make too many compromises (like soldering the RAM) to be so sleek, and it's not something I value at all. (Typing this from a T14 running Linux.)
    - riku_iki 3y ago
      t14 amd has ram soldered now.
      - nine_k 3y ago
        Only half of it; I was able to add another 16GB.
        riku_iki 3y ago
        it was likely intel t14 or pre gen3 model. I read in many sources that they now have some soldered low power ram for amd.
- deleted 3y ago
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- NikolaNovak 3y ago
  Nitpick on the Nitpick, x1 are their thinnest, not necessarily top of the line laptops :-) There's a fairly straightforward set of compromises between thin, powerful, repairable, between X, Ts, T proper, P, etc.
- bsder 3y ago
  What's with the X1s having such crappy screen resolutions (1920x1080)? My practically ancient Carbon X1 Gen 7 (2019?) has a screen of 2560x1440. You can't even buy a MacBook Air even at that poor a resolution nowadays.
jamesponddotco 3y ago
I have a ThinkPad Z13 as well[1] and, at least on openSUSE Tumbleweed, there are no suspend issues that I can find. Everything works as it should out of the box. [1] Two, actually, since my wife has one as well.
- stncls 3y ago
  Yes some of the suspend/audio issues are indicated as distro-dependent. But have you tried to disable suspend-on-lid-close? If that works for you as well, please let me know.
  - jamesponddotco 3y ago
    Never tried, but let me know how and I can give it a shot.
    - stncls 3y ago
      Thanks! On systemd-based systems: in /etc/systemd/logind.conf: HandleLidSwitch=ignore HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=ignore HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore Then: systemctl restart systemd-logind In addition, some desktop environments may also trigger suspend. If so, there should be options in the power settings menu.
_d3Xt3r_ 3y ago
Like the other person, I too have a Z13 and don't have any suspend/resume issues on Nobara (a Fedora spin). I can't speak about fan control though, haven't tried messing around with it but the fan seems to work just fine as intended - spins up when needed, quiet otherwise.
- stncls 3y ago
  Were you able to disable suspend-on-lid-close? If that works for you, please let me know.
  - _d3Xt3r_ 3y ago
    Yep, just tested this and disabling suspend works. I'm on KDE btw, disabled it via the GUI.
loxias 3y ago
P1 Gen3 w/ 4k OLED, best laptop I've had in my life. It gets a bit noisy and hot though. Liked it so much I bought a 2nd as hot spare. Everything works with Debian stable. Do I wish it was AMD based? Yes. 8C16T + 64GB is still a lot of awesome. Edit: As a warning, the display is so good you will have to purchase all new displays everywhere else in your life.
akeck 3y ago
It's more manual, but I love that "sudo systemctl hibernate" works reliably on my X1 Carbon Gen6.

by stncls 3y ago

nomel 3y ago

It's unfortunate that these are the same issues I had 18 years ago.

stncls 3y ago

For context (in case anyone thinks I'm nitpicking and all laptops are horribly supported on Linux): Basically everything works on the Thinkpad X1 Carbon [2], even the latest model (Gen11) as long as you buy the right one (no MIPI webcam). Unfortunately, Lenovo refuses to put AMD processors in X-series thinkpads (its top-of-the-line laptops). [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(Gen_11) https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X1_Carbon_(...

rjh29 3y ago
The T14s has AMD, is much cheaper and having owned both I can't really see a difference. Maybe a few mm thicker.
- nine_k 3y ago
  The T series and the W series are the only Thinkpads I ever considered. They are built to be maintainable and somehow upgradable. The sleeker X series make too many compromises (like soldering the RAM) to be so sleek, and it's not something I value at all. (Typing this from a T14 running Linux.)
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    t14 amd has ram soldered now.
    - nine_k 3y ago
      Only half of it; I was able to add another 16GB.
      - riku_iki 3y ago
        it was likely intel t14 or pre gen3 model. I read in many sources that they now have some soldered low power ram for amd.
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NikolaNovak 3y ago
Nitpick on the Nitpick, x1 are their thinnest, not necessarily top of the line laptops :-) There's a fairly straightforward set of compromises between thin, powerful, repairable, between X, Ts, T proper, P, etc.
bsder 3y ago
What's with the X1s having such crappy screen resolutions (1920x1080)? My practically ancient Carbon X1 Gen 7 (2019?) has a screen of 2560x1440. You can't even buy a MacBook Air even at that poor a resolution nowadays.

jamesponddotco 3y ago

I have a ThinkPad Z13 as well[1] and, at least on openSUSE Tumbleweed, there are no suspend issues that I can find. Everything works as it should out of the box. [1] Two, actually, since my wife has one as well.

stncls 3y ago
Yes some of the suspend/audio issues are indicated as distro-dependent. But have you tried to disable suspend-on-lid-close? If that works for you as well, please let me know.
- jamesponddotco 3y ago
  Never tried, but let me know how and I can give it a shot.
  - stncls 3y ago
    Thanks! On systemd-based systems: in /etc/systemd/logind.conf: HandleLidSwitch=ignore HandleLidSwitchExternalPower=ignore HandleLidSwitchDocked=ignore Then: systemctl restart systemd-logind In addition, some desktop environments may also trigger suspend. If so, there should be options in the power settings menu.

_d3Xt3r_ 3y ago

Like the other person, I too have a Z13 and don't have any suspend/resume issues on Nobara (a Fedora spin). I can't speak about fan control though, haven't tried messing around with it but the fan seems to work just fine as intended - spins up when needed, quiet otherwise.

stncls 3y ago
Were you able to disable suspend-on-lid-close? If that works for you, please let me know.
- _d3Xt3r_ 3y ago
  Yep, just tested this and disabling suspend works. I'm on KDE btw, disabled it via the GUI.

loxias 3y ago

P1 Gen3 w/ 4k OLED, best laptop I've had in my life. It gets a bit noisy and hot though. Liked it so much I bought a 2nd as hot spare. Everything works with Debian stable. Do I wish it was AMD based? Yes. 8C16T + 64GB is still a lot of awesome. Edit: As a warning, the display is so good you will have to purchase all new displays everywhere else in your life.

akeck 3y ago

It's more manual, but I love that "sudo systemctl hibernate" works reliably on my X1 Carbon Gen6.