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that seems like a unrelated issue, the machines here aren't being disabled due to non-cleaning also that was last year also there's nothing in your link about

that seems like a unrelated issue, the machines here aren't being disabled due to non-cleaning also that was last year also there's nothing in your link about it being due to someone hacking their machine

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
It's also obvious that technical measures would be useless at preventing this. Checking whether a local restaurant is following safety standards is for the local Health Inspector, not the machine vendor -- who would have the incentive to help them cheat as the one paying for their machines, if they weren't running a scam that makes the machine return false positives on purpose to generate profitable service calls. A prohibition on "hacking" only protects the scam.
adolph 3y ago
Below is a milkshake listeria incident from this month. There is a balance to be sought between "right to repair" and safe operation of equipment. The discussion here [1] about dangers of ill informed self-service ebike batteries is an example. I'd like to see the standards for chilled dairy equipment maintenance before I would believe any claims about capabilities for self-repair. OLYMPIA – Listeria bacteria found in all milkshake flavors sold at Frugals restaurant at 10727 Pacific Ave. S., Tacoma, WA are associated with a foodborne listeriosis outbreak linked to six hospitalizations and three deaths. Investigators found Listeria in the ice cream machines, which were not cleaned correctly. No other Frugals restaurants are believed to be affected. The restaurant stopped using its ice cream machines Aug. 8, but Listeria can sicken people up to 70 days later. [0] 0. https://doh.wa.gov/newsroom/listeria-bacteria-found-milkshakes-sold-frugals-restaurant-tacoma https://doh.wa.gov/newsroom/listeria-bacteria-found-milkshak... 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37293557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37293557

AnthonyMouse 3y ago

It's also obvious that technical measures would be useless at preventing this. Checking whether a local restaurant is following safety standards is for the local Health Inspector, not the machine vendor -- who would have the incentive to help them cheat as the one paying for their machines, if they weren't running a scam that makes the machine return false positives on purpose to generate profitable service calls. A prohibition on "hacking" only protects the scam.

adolph 3y ago

Below is a milkshake listeria incident from this month. There is a balance to be sought between "right to repair" and safe operation of equipment. The discussion here [1] about dangers of ill informed self-service ebike batteries is an example. I'd like to see the standards for chilled dairy equipment maintenance before I would believe any claims about capabilities for self-repair. OLYMPIA – Listeria bacteria found in all milkshake flavors sold at Frugals restaurant at 10727 Pacific Ave. S., Tacoma, WA are associated with a foodborne listeriosis outbreak linked to six hospitalizations and three deaths. Investigators found Listeria in the ice cream machines, which were not cleaned correctly. No other Frugals restaurants are believed to be affected. The restaurant stopped using its ice cream machines Aug. 8, but Listeria can sicken people up to 70 days later. [0] 0. https://doh.wa.gov/newsroom/listeria-bacteria-found-milkshakes-sold-frugals-restaurant-tacoma https://doh.wa.gov/newsroom/listeria-bacteria-found-milkshak... 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37293557 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37293557