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the german green party is not very green. They actively opposed nuclear energy and got it shut down before there were other low carbon energy sources available

the german green party is not very green. They actively opposed nuclear energy and got it shut down before there were other low carbon energy sources available to replace it. Which led directly to more coal and more gas being used. More ecological destruction and more CO2, it really contrary to any kind of good sense.

opless 3y ago
That's pretty the much the same as the green party in the UK 1. No one wants a nuclear reactor in their back yard 2. Making a safe nuclear reactor takes skilled engineers 3. The only country with those skills in europe are in france (The UK folk have all mostly retired now) 4. Oil companies have been known to fund the likes of Greenpeace and CND to promote fear about nuclear power/weapons 5. Nuclear has a longer ROI than Fossil fuels, but rapidly overtakes the profits when it reaches ROI Investors want to make a quick buck. 6. Investment into safer nuclear reactors has been choked for many of the above reasons 7. Even without reprocessing, nuclear is an order of magnitude less damaging to the environment than Oil/Gas
- _hypx 3y ago
  > 4. Oil companies have been known to fund the likes of Greenpeace and CND to promote fear about nuclear power/weapons It would be curious to see if there is a real conspiracy here, namely that green parties are really the creation of fossil fuel companies. Mainly to redirect and block credible environmental movements and replace them with ridiculous fearmongering groups with the goal of making fossil fuels the only option.
pohuing 3y ago
Ah but that's quite unfair isn't it. Green+socdem had greener plans which were stopped by the following Conservative+liberal government in the late 00s. Then fukushima happened and in a knee jerk reaction conservatives rushed out of nuclear, paying off the remaining providers, all while shortly before then fucking over solar development in Germany. Now green is finally in gov again and can only look on the ruins left for them after 16 years of Conservative led power policy.

opless 3y ago

That's pretty the much the same as the green party in the UK 1. No one wants a nuclear reactor in their back yard 2. Making a safe nuclear reactor takes skilled engineers 3. The only country with those skills in europe are in france (The UK folk have all mostly retired now) 4. Oil companies have been known to fund the likes of Greenpeace and CND to promote fear about nuclear power/weapons 5. Nuclear has a longer ROI than Fossil fuels, but rapidly overtakes the profits when it reaches ROI Investors want to make a quick buck. 6. Investment into safer nuclear reactors has been choked for many of the above reasons 7. Even without reprocessing, nuclear is an order of magnitude less damaging to the environment than Oil/Gas

_hypx 3y ago
> 4. Oil companies have been known to fund the likes of Greenpeace and CND to promote fear about nuclear power/weapons It would be curious to see if there is a real conspiracy here, namely that green parties are really the creation of fossil fuel companies. Mainly to redirect and block credible environmental movements and replace them with ridiculous fearmongering groups with the goal of making fossil fuels the only option.

pohuing 3y ago

Ah but that's quite unfair isn't it. Green+socdem had greener plans which were stopped by the following Conservative+liberal government in the late 00s. Then fukushima happened and in a knee jerk reaction conservatives rushed out of nuclear, paying off the remaining providers, all while shortly before then fucking over solar development in Germany. Now green is finally in gov again and can only look on the ruins left for them after 16 years of Conservative led power policy.