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Who decides what the 'expected score' is then? This would have to be the teacher, and as I mentioned in the post, the teachers cannot be trusted to be fair. Al

Who decides what the 'expected score' is then? This would have to be the teacher, and as I mentioned in the post, the teachers cannot be trusted to be fair. Also, it's just 2 scholarships per class of 30 people per term. So one just has to pick 2 people from the class.

adamb 18y ago
you mentioned that when you plotted score vs income, there was a clear correlation- i was suggesting using this data to normalize the scores. if trusting teachers is an issue, there are two options. - polling multiple teachers (hopefully eliminating individual bias) - polling multiple students. for polling teachers, you might suggest that each teacher recommend 4 students. for polling students, you might suggest that each applicant write 2 essays: why they should receive the award, and which of their fellow classmates should as well. correlating these with exam scores might provide a clearer picture still.
- markessien 18y ago
  The students get one teacher per year. I.e, they don't have multiple teachers for each subject, they just have 1 teacher who takes them for an entire year, then they get a new teacher. The essay suggestion would work maybe for the 10-12 year olds, but the 6-10 year olds would not be able to write that well. Also, would they not just pick their 'clique'?
  - adamb 18y ago
    - ask for input from the previous year's teacher - students only pick one other person, so picking their entire clique wouldn't fit as an answer. further, as good students tend to find one another, it's a good filter for finding people that should be recommended by the teacher but aren't (or vice-versa). - if a full essay is too much, just ask them to write what they'd do with their scholarship in a few sentences (prose, poem, any form will do). since you're only looking for 2 kids, you only need a question that will highlight the top candidates. no need to properly rank the entire class.

adamb 18y ago

you mentioned that when you plotted score vs income, there was a clear correlation- i was suggesting using this data to normalize the scores. if trusting teachers is an issue, there are two options. - polling multiple teachers (hopefully eliminating individual bias) - polling multiple students. for polling teachers, you might suggest that each teacher recommend 4 students. for polling students, you might suggest that each applicant write 2 essays: why they should receive the award, and which of their fellow classmates should as well. correlating these with exam scores might provide a clearer picture still.

markessien 18y ago
The students get one teacher per year. I.e, they don't have multiple teachers for each subject, they just have 1 teacher who takes them for an entire year, then they get a new teacher. The essay suggestion would work maybe for the 10-12 year olds, but the 6-10 year olds would not be able to write that well. Also, would they not just pick their 'clique'?
- adamb 18y ago
  - ask for input from the previous year's teacher - students only pick one other person, so picking their entire clique wouldn't fit as an answer. further, as good students tend to find one another, it's a good filter for finding people that should be recommended by the teacher but aren't (or vice-versa). - if a full essay is too much, just ask them to write what they'd do with their scholarship in a few sentences (prose, poem, any form will do). since you're only looking for 2 kids, you only need a question that will highlight the top candidates. no need to properly rank the entire class.