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> It is relatively rare for Gen X and Gen Y workers to have stayed with one employer for decades, as many of their parents may have done. I’ve seen more peopl

> It is relatively rare for Gen X and Gen Y workers to have stayed with one employer for decades, as many of their parents may have done. I’ve seen more people take them in between jobs than during, which works fine within the job hopping expectations that companies have created.

elicash 3y ago
Yes, "fun-employment" is essentially the new sabbatical.
- ghaff 3y ago
  You'll probably find that "fun-employment" as a term is mostly used by people who were collecting a very nice paycheck and don't have a lot of serious responsibilities.
  - elicash 3y ago
    Half-right. In my experience, it's often younger folks out of school, with no kids, who make low wages and live with their parents. It's folks for whom unemployment insurance is a great benefit, assuming they were at their previous job long enough to collect it.
    - ghaff 3y ago
      That's probably another category for whom employment seems like sort of an optional activity at least for a bit. I admit I hear it--at least in my circles--from decently-paid tech workers who are ready to take some time off,
deprecative 3y ago
I see folks take them when they're laid off because it takes so long for folks to get a job offer.
- ghaff 3y ago
  The/one problem is it's not predictable. It might take a year. You might get an offer next week. When I was a month between jobs in the dot-com aftermath, it would have been nice to have known that I'd have something like 6 weeks between jobs. But, of course, at the time it could have been either a very long time or I'd better take whatever was on offer.
ljm 3y ago
It's only really an option if you've been paid handsomely enough to rack up some savings beforehand though, and being able to take 6 months or a year out of work entirely at your own expense isn't an opportunity affordable to everyone. I managed a month and it wasn't enough. Not a chance I could have managed much more than that though without eating into my emergency funds and becoming anxious. Voluntarily taking unpaid time off is a massive luxury.

elicash 3y ago

Yes, "fun-employment" is essentially the new sabbatical.

ghaff 3y ago
You'll probably find that "fun-employment" as a term is mostly used by people who were collecting a very nice paycheck and don't have a lot of serious responsibilities.
- elicash 3y ago
  Half-right. In my experience, it's often younger folks out of school, with no kids, who make low wages and live with their parents. It's folks for whom unemployment insurance is a great benefit, assuming they were at their previous job long enough to collect it.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    That's probably another category for whom employment seems like sort of an optional activity at least for a bit. I admit I hear it--at least in my circles--from decently-paid tech workers who are ready to take some time off,

deprecative 3y ago

I see folks take them when they're laid off because it takes so long for folks to get a job offer.

ghaff 3y ago
The/one problem is it's not predictable. It might take a year. You might get an offer next week. When I was a month between jobs in the dot-com aftermath, it would have been nice to have known that I'd have something like 6 weeks between jobs. But, of course, at the time it could have been either a very long time or I'd better take whatever was on offer.

ljm 3y ago

It's only really an option if you've been paid handsomely enough to rack up some savings beforehand though, and being able to take 6 months or a year out of work entirely at your own expense isn't an opportunity affordable to everyone. I managed a month and it wasn't enough. Not a chance I could have managed much more than that though without eating into my emergency funds and becoming anxious. Voluntarily taking unpaid time off is a massive luxury.