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I don't know how much Middle East blood is on our hands as Europeans were totally against the war in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq. 36 million people pro

I don't know how much Middle East blood is on our hands as Europeans were totally against the war in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq. 36 million people protested. In Rome itself, 3 million people. No other event has managed to put that many people on the streets. And Bush haven't managed to build a great coalition for his stupid war. His famous "you forgot Poland" will be laughed at for many years. These two wars were stupid before they ever begun, and Europeans knew about this from the very beginning and they did what they could to stop them. An yet, Kremlin loves to say Russians are just doing the same things as European did. We are not the same.

blub 3y ago
Europeans failed at stopping them and no one was punished. That’s the only thing that matters, trying is not good enough. I agree we’re not the same as the Kremlin and I like to use a metaphor of Western vs Eastern EU corruption to illustrate the difference: in EE, doctors and police may politely ask your for bribes. In WE there’s lobbying, “consultants” and cushy nepotism. It’s the sophistication which makes the difference, you see… While Russia stupidly invades another country in blatant violation of international law, the US and EU invade to protect democracy and freedom, try at least to get the UN to rubber-stamp it and later make an effort at a botched up reconstruction, transforming the invaded countries in a living hell where children are sold for food (e.g. Afghanistan).
- benterix 3y ago
  > the US and EU invade to protect democracy and freedom No, the EU does not invade for any reason. People in the EU want to live in peace. The USA managed to convince Blair to ally with them to invade Iraq but that's it. Both Blair and Bush should be held responsible for their crimes.

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I don't know how much Middle East blood is on our hands as Europeans were totally against the war in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq. 36 million people pro

by hdjjhhvvhga 3y ago

blub 3y ago
Europeans failed at stopping them and no one was punished. That’s the only thing that matters, trying is not good enough. I agree we’re not the same as the Kremlin and I like to use a metaphor of Western vs Eastern EU corruption to illustrate the difference: in EE, doctors and police may politely ask your for bribes. In WE there’s lobbying, “consultants” and cushy nepotism. It’s the sophistication which makes the difference, you see… While Russia stupidly invades another country in blatant violation of international law, the US and EU invade to protect democracy and freedom, try at least to get the UN to rubber-stamp it and later make an effort at a botched up reconstruction, transforming the invaded countries in a living hell where children are sold for food (e.g. Afghanistan).
- benterix 3y ago
  > the US and EU invade to protect democracy and freedom No, the EU does not invade for any reason. People in the EU want to live in peace. The USA managed to convince Blair to ally with them to invade Iraq but that's it. Both Blair and Bush should be held responsible for their crimes.