Actually, let's digress even further since we're already just typing arbitrary words in a text box instead of having a meaningful conversation. A lot of people

Actually, let's digress even further since we're already just typing arbitrary words in a text box instead of having a meaningful conversation. A lot of people use the words "left" and "right" in politics without having a clear idea what they mean. Going back to early modern France isn't particularly helpful in the absence of a monarchy either, so I can understand a lot of the frustration behind this. Personally, I go by the definition that "right" means "more hierarchies" or "more static hierarchies" and "left" means "fewer hierarchies" or "more flexible hiearchies". These definitions are rightfully relative because there clearly isn't a meaningful "middle ground" between directly opposed political movements (after all, who would have agreed to let the Nazis have "only some genocide" if the question was Holocaust or no Holocaust?) but they fit neatly across the various layers politics are usually applied to: are straight people better (more morally correct?) than queer people? are people born here more deserving than people who only moved here? are children of wealthy people jusftifiably better off than children of poor people? do you lose if you snooze? do some deserve more than others? Politics don't exist in a vacuum. Politics go right to the core of how we understand ourselves and the world around us. Elections in a representative democracy aren't a sport no matter how much the political system alienates us from itself through the centralization of power. Politics are informed by our ethical principles and electoral politics is how we do violence to support those principles, ideally without actually using direct violence against each other. If you feel that everyone has a right to be heard, that is fine, and if that is integral to your ethical system, it is entirely acceptable to say that anyone opposing this principle is your enemy. But most people who say they value free speech to the extreme don't actually have that as the central basis of their ethical system. They usually just want to be able to say and hear certain opinions they agree with and that they think are unpopular. But the ability to say and hear unpopular opinions is merely a means to an end: once their social order is etablished, they want it to persist (because of course they would, otherwise what is even the point of establishing it) and at that point they would no longer want the opposition to speak freely. Libertarians may in some cases genuinely hold the absolute freedom of speech as a core value, but this does not mean they don't believe in hierarchies: favoring free trade for example means the ability to take advantage of the needs of others at their expense and to your benefit. Absolute freedom must always also include the ability to limit the freedoms of others because otherwise it can not be absolute. This leads to hierarchies, whether implicitly or explicitly. Thus the leftist anarchist who believes in the complete abolition of hierarchies must be at odds not just with the authoritarian who wants a predetermined rigid hierarchy but also the libertarian who wants an arbitrary dynamic hierarchy ruled by the market and the ability of its participants to take advantage of each other. I don't think states are the answer to eliminating hierarchies because they are hierarchical by nature. It's like expecting corporations to help abolish capitalism: the incentives are completely misaligned. Where do people get the ideas that some people are worth more or more deserving than others? It's baked into the system. You can't debate the idea away within the system as doing so would challenge the system itself and the system is set up to reinforce itself. Any party openly running on a ticket of dissolving the state would be banned for being anti-constitutional the same way any part openly calling for another Holocaust would be. From a true libertarian standpoint (or the standpoint claimed by someone on the opposing end of the political spectrum trying to hide their true intentions) you can argue that all forms of censorship is wrong and all political options should be on the table and that the public opinion should decide. But through the mere circumstance of the debate happening in a system in which a state exists, the options on the table are already filtered by what the system can represent and the public opinion is already shaped by the system into which the members of the public were raised and exist in (as the saying goes: a fish has no concept of water). As someone more willing to side with the left anarchist side of this three-way split, I understand why my ideology is incompatible with the state and why the state can't allow it to blossom within itself, which is why I don't feign surprise when anarchist groups are attacked by it even when they have no interest in using physical violence. A person on the authoritarian end of the spectrum on the other hand is much more likely to be overlooked if they don't openly state their end goals and the precise nature of the hierarchies they want to use the state to manifest and enforce. A person on the libertarian end in contrast will only meet resistance when openly acting against the state itself (like the Unabomber did) but not when trying to erode its protective mechanisms under the banner of "opening it to the market". But that is largely due to the state existing in the overlap of its own structural system of hierarchy and other systems of hierarchy like capitalism. Now with all that said, the Green party very much is not anarchist and while it's hardly as authoritarian as the right likes to claim, it is also certainly not libertarian. In the real world most people don't have coherent ideologies because they have more immediately important things in life than sussing out the logical contradictions of what they think is important or good. Political groups are made of people and then things get even more muddled. However just like right authoritarians like to hide behind libertarian talking points to advance their goals so do some libertarians capture right authoritarian movements to advance theirs by undoing the structural changes that further the goals of those on the left (e.g. codifying gender equality in law, thus attempting to use the hiearchical state to attack the gender hierarchy). And to make things worse, the right will often also adopt left talking points (e.g. talking negatively about "the elites" but referring to a specific demographic group rather than the existence of an elite in general). This is right-wing populism: using a talking point that has a good chance of wide popular support ("protect the children", "save our jobs") to further a tangentially related goal (ban transgender identities, restrict immigration) or create popular support by presenting a largely fictional threat or heavily misrepresenting reality (e.g. examples of "looting" after Hurricane Katrina that turned out to be survivors helping each other or "looting" their own homes, "rapists and gang members flooding the border", BLM protestors "burning down cities"). More often than not, this is also used to hijack left-wing talking points that happen to fit the current zeitgeist (e.g. infamously the NSDAP referred to Jews as "international bankers" at various points to hijack the success of socialist movements at the time). Contrast this with "left-wing populism" which is usually applied as a label to anyone promoting ideas like "raising taxes on the rich", "increasing minimum wage", "providing free health care for all", "providing free education for all", etc implying there is something more sinister they're not saying openly (which, based on reports from FBI investigations into leftist groups, is generally not the case: leftist groups are fairly straightforward about what they want). Apologies if you've read through all this. Or not. Maybe it taught someone something. It was certainly more educational than whatever the point of crying censorship over the mention of the existence of right wing populism was.