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> Governments, and perhaps Unions, are by definition (correct me if i'm wrong?) an entity that is by the people and for the people I never heard of this defini
by nvm0n2 3y ago
> Governments, and perhaps Unions, are by definition (correct me if i'm wrong?) an entity that is by the people and for the people
I never heard of this definition for unions! Unions definitely aren't for or by "the people", that would mean everyone. Unions are - by definition - a group of arbitrarily defined "workers" lined up to fight the "management", another somewhat arbitrary group. They are inherently exclusionary and divisive.
Unless you're a communist, in which case you think managers, company founders, shopkeepers, farmers etc aren't really people.
- unshavedyak 3y agoNot sure i follow. > a group of arbitrarily defined "workers" lined up to fight the "management", another somewhat arbitrary group. They are inherently exclusionary and divisive. So is _any_ group but "all". "For the people" doesn't literally mean "all people". Government would also not be "for the people" by your definition, given that we have no (real) global government. If we get together and form a union, ie our joint effort towards a common goal, have we not formed an entity for the people (us), by the people (us)? Your argument seems odd. "But it's not for everyone" is.. well, yea - nothing is. Literally. What can you say that is "everyone"?