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The end of coal is not pre-mature.

Waterluvian 3y ago
Climate change is, in a sense, a massive store of value that you can take from without the consent of those who pay. Which makes it very hard for economics-minded thinking to overlook as a lazy way to thrive.
c4mpute 3y ago
The end of coal is premature if your only other GW-scale energy source, nuclear, is being phased out at the same time, and you don't even have a replacement planned.
VSerge 3y ago
The end of coal has not happened on Germany, who went back to using massive amounts of coal as Russian gas stopped being available : 33.2% of all German electricity came from coal in 2022. https://www.energy-charts.info/downloads/Stromerzeugung_2022.pdf https://www.energy-charts.info/downloads/Stromerzeugung_2022... (slide 17 braunkohle + steinkohle)
- b3orn 3y ago
  I'd say it's slowly happening. There was a large drop in 2019[0] by around 25% (~50TWh) from 2018, ignoring the 2020 drop (around 25% ~33TWh compared to 2019) due to the pandemic, 2021 was almost back to 2019 levels (-3.5%) and 2022 was an increase by ~6.5% compared to 2019. Looking at quaterly data[1] it looks like 2023 will be well below 2019 again. And no, it hasn't been replaced by gas[2], although there's no clear trend in gas for electricity, if anything gas consumption is down due to the war. [0]: https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&chartColumnSorting=default&legendItems=000001010000000000000&year=-1&stacking=stacked_absolute&timeslider=1&interval=year https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE... [1]: https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&chartColumnSorting=default&legendItems=000001010000000000000&year=-1&stacking=stacked_absolute&timeslider=1&interval=quarter&quarter=-1 https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE... [2]: https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&chartColumnSorting=default&legendItems=000000000100000000000&year=-1&stacking=stacked_absolute&timeslider=1&interval=year https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE...

Climate change is, in a sense, a massive store of value that you can take from without the consent of those who pay. Which makes it very hard for economics-minded thinking to overlook as a lazy way to thrive.

c4mpute 3y ago

The end of coal is premature if your only other GW-scale energy source, nuclear, is being phased out at the same time, and you don't even have a replacement planned.

VSerge 3y ago

The end of coal has not happened on Germany, who went back to using massive amounts of coal as Russian gas stopped being available : 33.2% of all German electricity came from coal in 2022. https://www.energy-charts.info/downloads/Stromerzeugung_2022.pdf https://www.energy-charts.info/downloads/Stromerzeugung_2022... (slide 17 braunkohle + steinkohle)

b3orn 3y ago
I'd say it's slowly happening. There was a large drop in 2019[0] by around 25% (~50TWh) from 2018, ignoring the 2020 drop (around 25% ~33TWh compared to 2019) due to the pandemic, 2021 was almost back to 2019 levels (-3.5%) and 2022 was an increase by ~6.5% compared to 2019. Looking at quaterly data[1] it looks like 2023 will be well below 2019 again. And no, it hasn't been replaced by gas[2], although there's no clear trend in gas for electricity, if anything gas consumption is down due to the war. [0]: https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&chartColumnSorting=default&legendItems=000001010000000000000&year=-1&stacking=stacked_absolute&timeslider=1&interval=year https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE... [1]: https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&chartColumnSorting=default&legendItems=000001010000000000000&year=-1&stacking=stacked_absolute&timeslider=1&interval=quarter&quarter=-1 https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE... [2]: https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE&chartColumnSorting=default&legendItems=000000000100000000000&year=-1&stacking=stacked_absolute&timeslider=1&interval=year https://energy-charts.info/charts/energy/chart.htm?l=en&c=DE...