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I think you've just reinvented "hiring interns." The approach you describe here looks pretty much exactly like other intern-onboarding programs I've seen at oth

I think you've just reinvented "hiring interns." The approach you describe here looks pretty much exactly like other intern-onboarding programs I've seen at other engineering companies, big and small. (Which is to say, it's a great idea, which is why it's already an industry standard.)

RevEng 3y ago
In my experience, it's not all that standard. There are still many companies advertising exclusively for 2+ years experience, even in very niche areas where few people would already have relevant experience. I think there might also be a different between interns and juniors. Where I'm from, interns are people who are hired specifically for a short period of time, often people still in their education. This is in comparison to juniors who are expecting permanent, full time employment. The amount of training and responsibilities given to juniors is much greater than that given interns because there is a much greater return expected.
- andomdeazzz662 3y ago
  There's a huge difference between interns and juniors. For one thing, junior engineers are full time employees with full benefits and regular expectations. For the most part, intern expectations are very low as far as any actual work goes, because they aren't there for long enough to really contribute to anything meaningfully. It's mostly a social thing and a game being played on both sides about whether or not to hook up after graduation. Companies don't actually expect to get any work product out of interns at all, that isn't the purpose of the programs, but junior engineers definitely will have real deliverables to take care of.
Arisaka1 3y ago
Problem is, in the real world this is only true for "hiring interns". When it comes to hiring junior developers you're not considered an intern anymore (especially when you didn't had a CS education that funnels you to an internship position), so the norm is "let's kick you in the deep cold water and see if you're talented enough to swim".

RevEng 3y ago

In my experience, it's not all that standard. There are still many companies advertising exclusively for 2+ years experience, even in very niche areas where few people would already have relevant experience. I think there might also be a different between interns and juniors. Where I'm from, interns are people who are hired specifically for a short period of time, often people still in their education. This is in comparison to juniors who are expecting permanent, full time employment. The amount of training and responsibilities given to juniors is much greater than that given interns because there is a much greater return expected.

andomdeazzz662 3y ago
There's a huge difference between interns and juniors. For one thing, junior engineers are full time employees with full benefits and regular expectations. For the most part, intern expectations are very low as far as any actual work goes, because they aren't there for long enough to really contribute to anything meaningfully. It's mostly a social thing and a game being played on both sides about whether or not to hook up after graduation. Companies don't actually expect to get any work product out of interns at all, that isn't the purpose of the programs, but junior engineers definitely will have real deliverables to take care of.

Arisaka1 3y ago

Problem is, in the real world this is only true for "hiring interns". When it comes to hiring junior developers you're not considered an intern anymore (especially when you didn't had a CS education that funnels you to an internship position), so the norm is "let's kick you in the deep cold water and see if you're talented enough to swim".