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(meta) I’m getting tired of seeing paywalled content on HN. I wonder if we could tag links as such and have an option to hide paywalled links. Or just outright

by dcow 3y ago

(meta) I’m getting tired of seeing paywalled content on HN. I wonder if we could tag links as such and have an option to hide paywalled links. Or just outright ban them.

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arkadiyt 3y ago
Just disable javascript and you can bypass 90% of paywalls, including this one
- kalleboo 3y ago
  Safari Reader mode is also an easy way to bypass them (right-click on the address bar, site settings, use reader mode when available, refresh page) that also worked on this site
grecy 3y ago
Maybe HN could automatically link to the Internet Archive version of the story once someone posts it as a comment like often happens...
- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  archive.today (archive.ph and archive.is) is not The Internet Archive. It's a separate archival service which seems to be optimized to bypass paywalls (though there's very little information about the motivations for running it, where the funding is coming from, the country of origin, or techniques they're using to bypass said paywalls). I believe it's discouraged (maybe even against HN policies) to make a submission with such a link, because it makes it impossible to tell what the original source of the article is without clicking it.
  - resolutebat 3y ago
    This was discussed recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37009598 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37009598
gexla 3y ago
I only read HN comments on more than 90% of posts. Though I do always read the article if I'm commenting on content which is in the article (as opposed to content within a comment.) This last point brings up a good angle. If you're against breaking paywalls, and you don't have access to the content, then maybe you don't add a valuable comment with a unique perspective.
shmoogy 3y ago
Are you against Userscripts to "fix" this? https://github.com/MostlyEmre/hn-anti-paywall https://github.com/MostlyEmre/hn-anti-paywall I have this setup on my iPhone and iPad, and it works fine to see paywalls and get links to archive so I can view them.
pdntspa 3y ago
archive.is my dude
kirrent 3y ago
I understand your frustration but complaining about paywalls is not only off-topic and repetitive it's also explicitly called out as something we should try and avoid when commenting on HN - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989
- glimshe 3y ago
  It's off-topic based on current rules, but if people completely stop complaining about it, the rules will never change. And maybe they should. See this is a form of civil disobedience!
karaterobot 3y ago
I assume that a paywalled article without an archive link in the thread is going to be a discussion in which almost nobody has actually read the thing they're talking about.

by dcow 3y ago

(meta) I’m getting tired of seeing paywalled content on HN. I wonder if we could tag links as such and have an option to hide paywalled links. Or just outright ban them.

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arkadiyt 3y ago

Just disable javascript and you can bypass 90% of paywalls, including this one

kalleboo 3y ago
Safari Reader mode is also an easy way to bypass them (right-click on the address bar, site settings, use reader mode when available, refresh page) that also worked on this site

grecy 3y ago

Maybe HN could automatically link to the Internet Archive version of the story once someone posts it as a comment like often happens...

pcthrowaway 3y ago
archive.today (archive.ph and archive.is) is not The Internet Archive. It's a separate archival service which seems to be optimized to bypass paywalls (though there's very little information about the motivations for running it, where the funding is coming from, the country of origin, or techniques they're using to bypass said paywalls). I believe it's discouraged (maybe even against HN policies) to make a submission with such a link, because it makes it impossible to tell what the original source of the article is without clicking it.
- resolutebat 3y ago
  This was discussed recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37009598 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37009598

gexla 3y ago

I only read HN comments on more than 90% of posts. Though I do always read the article if I'm commenting on content which is in the article (as opposed to content within a comment.) This last point brings up a good angle. If you're against breaking paywalls, and you don't have access to the content, then maybe you don't add a valuable comment with a unique perspective.

shmoogy 3y ago

Are you against Userscripts to "fix" this? https://github.com/MostlyEmre/hn-anti-paywall https://github.com/MostlyEmre/hn-anti-paywall I have this setup on my iPhone and iPad, and it works fine to see paywalls and get links to archive so I can view them.

pdntspa 3y ago

archive.is my dude

kirrent 3y ago

I understand your frustration but complaining about paywalls is not only off-topic and repetitive it's also explicitly called out as something we should try and avoid when commenting on HN - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10178989

glimshe 3y ago
It's off-topic based on current rules, but if people completely stop complaining about it, the rules will never change. And maybe they should. See this is a form of civil disobedience!

karaterobot 3y ago

I assume that a paywalled article without an archive link in the thread is going to be a discussion in which almost nobody has actually read the thing they're talking about.