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That's not how anything works. You aren't a stock holder. They are not beholden to you. You are donating money. They run the org they decide what's best to

That's not how anything works. You aren't a stock holder. They are not beholden to you. You are donating money. They run the org they decide what's best to accomplishing their goals. If you don't like it, don't donate.

mixmastamyk 3y ago
We are talking about them misleading folks with their donation drives. Paying themselves 10x while workers get nothing. “Don’t donate if you don’t like it” is not even near good enough, sorry.
nailer 3y ago
I asked you to explicitly state how the social justice causes increase access to information. You replied sure but then didn't do this. I asked you again. You didn't do this. You may get more attention and interest from other people if you stop pretending to respond to them.
- weatherlight 3y ago
  Nailer, you're being pedantic and it doesn't feel like you're arguing in good faith. But fine, you want receipts? Check out wikimediafoundation.org/about/financial-reports/#a1-2022-2023. Now, let's talk about why those receipts matter. You're hung up on this "show me the receipts" thing like it's a gotcha moment. But let's get real: social justice isn't just virtue signaling. It's about ensuring Wikipedia isn't an echo chamber for a handful of people. More voices mean a more comprehensive and nuanced resource. If you can't connect those dots, I can't help you. Social justice has been part of democratic institutions since the Athenian days. This isn't some radical concept. A wiki, by definition, is a collaborative, democratic space. So, are you saying diversity of viewpoints is bad? Look up buffalo.edu/news/releases/2018/08/031.html for some research that disagrees. Still not convinced that social justice is integral to democracy? Check out jstor.org/stable/193608. If you're still not on board, no worries. Donating is a choice, not a mandate. Your money, your call.

mixmastamyk 3y ago

We are talking about them misleading folks with their donation drives. Paying themselves 10x while workers get nothing. “Don’t donate if you don’t like it” is not even near good enough, sorry.

nailer 3y ago

I asked you to explicitly state how the social justice causes increase access to information. You replied sure but then didn't do this. I asked you again. You didn't do this. You may get more attention and interest from other people if you stop pretending to respond to them.

weatherlight 3y ago
Nailer, you're being pedantic and it doesn't feel like you're arguing in good faith. But fine, you want receipts? Check out wikimediafoundation.org/about/financial-reports/#a1-2022-2023. Now, let's talk about why those receipts matter. You're hung up on this "show me the receipts" thing like it's a gotcha moment. But let's get real: social justice isn't just virtue signaling. It's about ensuring Wikipedia isn't an echo chamber for a handful of people. More voices mean a more comprehensive and nuanced resource. If you can't connect those dots, I can't help you. Social justice has been part of democratic institutions since the Athenian days. This isn't some radical concept. A wiki, by definition, is a collaborative, democratic space. So, are you saying diversity of viewpoints is bad? Look up buffalo.edu/news/releases/2018/08/031.html for some research that disagrees. Still not convinced that social justice is integral to democracy? Check out jstor.org/stable/193608. If you're still not on board, no worries. Donating is a choice, not a mandate. Your money, your call.