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I just told you it's not a conspiracy, you're tilting at windmills. I have not proposed a conspiracy to create movies like this, I don't think there's a cabal
by mcpackieh 3y ago
I just told you it's not a conspiracy, you're tilting at windmills.
I have not proposed a conspiracy to create movies like this, I don't think there's a cabal of billionaires who dreamed up and coordinate this as a deliberate propaganda campaign. I assert that the Hollywood system creates movies like this because because of the way it is structured and the nature of making movies. People who fit the mold and are naturally inclined to make movies like this get promoted and given opportunities by like-minded people. People who don't jive with the crowd never have the opportunity to make movies of their own, because making movies (particularly blockbusters) requires access to a system with lots of capital and manpower.
I'm not the one looking for conspiracies. You're looking for a conspiracy in what I'm saying so that you can dismiss it. Read Manufacturing Consent.
- dotnet00 3y agoI'm calling it a conspiracy not because I think you're saying there's a cabal of billionaires doing this. I get that you're trying to pull the popular claim these days about things being "systemic". My fundamental disagreement is that I don't care about what an obviously biased guy has to say about the media, I think a superhero movie is just a superhero movie and that of course Chomsky sees propaganda in everything, it'd be like expecting a politician anywhere in the world to not try to imply that all things wrong in the world are their opponent's fault. To bring in a lighthearted example of the impression I have, regarding the sexualized outfit worn by characters in Nier Automata, there's been tons of analysis and whining, and mocking all that and to the satisfaction of most fans of the game, the author, when asked about the decision, pretended to be giving some complex reasoning before just straight up saying that he just likes girls. It's the same with superhero stuff, the biggest takeaway from Iron Man isn't that irl billionaires are good guys, it's that an exoskeleton that can fly and shoot lasers is really fucking cool.
- johnnyworker 3y ago> My fundamental disagreement is that I don't care about what an obviously biased guy has to say about the media That's not disagreement, that's just covering your ears and going la la la. You're barking up the wrong tree, that book is a good primer for you to find out how, if you don't read it you're still barking up the wrong tree.
- dotnet00 3y ago"Everyone who doesn't read my favorite book is just ignorant and not allowed to disagree" is not the argument you think it is.
- mcpackieh 3y ago"Everybody who disagrees with me is a conspiracy theorist, even if they explicit say there is no conspiracy. Also they're biased but of course I'm not."
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- johnnyworker 3y agoNo, it's just you're talking to yourself. You are not interacting with the points raised by the person you reply to, you just twist them into a straw man to beat down on. Which is fine, but doesn't require the presence of anyone but you. > I assert that the Hollywood system creates movies like this because because of the way it is structured and the nature of making movies. You respond to that with > I get that you're trying to pull the popular claim these days about things being "systemic" And go on to talk to yourself some more. You just aren't equipped to even read that comment, much less that book and others exploring the same issues.
- mcpackieh 3y agoIt's literally not a conspiracy, you clearly want to substitute what I'm saying with your own strawman. I'm through, go talk to yourself in a mirror.