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> Trolls are creating misinformation and using it for political gain. That's my point. Yes, I understand that is your point. Just as I could make it my point t

> Trolls are creating misinformation and using it for political gain. That's my point. Yes, I understand that is your point. Just as I could make it my point that the sky is blue. But why would we want to make these points? These non-sequiturs add nothing of value.

dragontamer 3y ago
Because Reddit and Twitter are havens of misinformation (especially more recently as moderators are protesting / refusing to do as much of a job they did before). And other websites have higher levels of trust with me. You know. The point of the discussion? The entire crux of Twitter and Reddit is about discussions, and IMO, truth-seeking is one of the most important roles discussion plays. How well a webpage, or other system, functions in regards to truth-seeking is a high priority for me.
- randomdata 3y ago
  Well, yeah, Reddit is a comedy website. It's not supposed to be truthful in any meaningful sense. It's there for when you want a laugh. The CEO even admits to editing other people's comments when they are deemed not funny enough. Like I stated in another post, I only really ever see weather forecasts on Twitter, from people who have allegedly dedicated their lives to meteorology and not just some "pretty weather girl" like you find in more common weather channels. I have found them to be as truthful as forecasting the weather can be, and are open about the limitations of their models. They don't always get it right, but that is entirely understandable. We don't understand the truths of weather. Nor do we need to because not worrying about the truth has allowed us to focus on what is actually important. So, I don't know, Wikipedia's weather forecasts have been far less reliable in experience. That's not really its thing. I see no reason to trust either because it doesn't matter what the truth is – the weather will come the same either way – but if I had a gun to my back forcing me to choose, Twitter would win. But, realistically, they're not meaningfully compared. They offer a completely different service.
  - dragontamer 3y ago
    Twitter is for pumping illegitimate, unregulated securities like LunaCoin / Terra and other failed cryptocoins. And this has seemingly gotten worse over the past year, at least in my eyes. Now to get boosted, you can just pay $7/month and force feed scamcoins to the masses.
    - randomdata 3y ago
      > Twitter is for pumping illegitimate, unregulated securities like LunaCoin / Terra and other failed cryptocoins. Okay, and if you don't get wrapped up in thinking the message is true, what difference does it make? You could get yourself in trouble if you are concerned about the truth, and then pick the 'wrong truth', indeed. But why would you do that? > And this has seemingly gotten worse over the past year, at least in my eyes. They say the Twitter algorithm feeds you what you want to see. This may be a "you" problem. I've never seen anything about crypto on Twitter. Mostly weather-related content and sometimes farmers posting pictures from the field. That's about it.
      - dragontamer 3y ago
        How old are you? Are you really so young that you've never had to make a decision in your life? Like, what to do with your money? Which goods to purchase? Whether or not Car X or Car Y is good / bad / shilled / whatever? Is school district X better or school district Y better, or is it just local FUD / fake crap? Investments is yet another decision for anyone who is trying to provide for themselves and/or their families, so the truth in stuff to invest into (or not invest into) is of high importance. Do you not make decisions that affect you... or people you care about? I'm struggling to figure out how naive you are and what your background is. If truth doesn't matter to you, so be it. I'm not here to convince you. But I'm still curious who you are and how you can get through life with this attitude. There's a myriad of such choices I encounter on a daily basis, be it at work, at home, in my family, in the families of my friends and so forth. To see someone so disinterested in such details (and apparently ignorant of the importance of truth in these situations) is... intriguing to me. ------------ I decided that Lunacoin was a scam, as are many other cryptocoins. So I am safe. My coworker, a close friend of mine, also agreed it was a scam. However, he didn't realize that Celsius was wrapped up in it. And therefore, lost $X0,000 to the situation. That's $X0,000 that his children will not be able to use through schooling, or for his next car or retirement. He placed his trust in Celsisus and got overrun by the Terra/Lunacoin disaster, despite paying attention to it he was unable to predict the trajectory of that situation in time to save his money. Those who found out the truth faster got their money out in time, before everything collapsed. ---------- I mean, I guess it hasn't really affected his life or my life. We all can afford a $X0,000 mistake here and there and not really sweat it. But it does change our purchase habits over the next few years to save back up and put our financial house back in order when these kinds of things happen.

dragontamer 3y ago

Because Reddit and Twitter are havens of misinformation (especially more recently as moderators are protesting / refusing to do as much of a job they did before). And other websites have higher levels of trust with me. You know. The point of the discussion? The entire crux of Twitter and Reddit is about discussions, and IMO, truth-seeking is one of the most important roles discussion plays. How well a webpage, or other system, functions in regards to truth-seeking is a high priority for me.

randomdata 3y ago
Well, yeah, Reddit is a comedy website. It's not supposed to be truthful in any meaningful sense. It's there for when you want a laugh. The CEO even admits to editing other people's comments when they are deemed not funny enough. Like I stated in another post, I only really ever see weather forecasts on Twitter, from people who have allegedly dedicated their lives to meteorology and not just some "pretty weather girl" like you find in more common weather channels. I have found them to be as truthful as forecasting the weather can be, and are open about the limitations of their models. They don't always get it right, but that is entirely understandable. We don't understand the truths of weather. Nor do we need to because not worrying about the truth has allowed us to focus on what is actually important. So, I don't know, Wikipedia's weather forecasts have been far less reliable in experience. That's not really its thing. I see no reason to trust either because it doesn't matter what the truth is – the weather will come the same either way – but if I had a gun to my back forcing me to choose, Twitter would win. But, realistically, they're not meaningfully compared. They offer a completely different service.
- dragontamer 3y ago
  Twitter is for pumping illegitimate, unregulated securities like LunaCoin / Terra and other failed cryptocoins. And this has seemingly gotten worse over the past year, at least in my eyes. Now to get boosted, you can just pay $7/month and force feed scamcoins to the masses.
  - randomdata 3y ago
    > Twitter is for pumping illegitimate, unregulated securities like LunaCoin / Terra and other failed cryptocoins. Okay, and if you don't get wrapped up in thinking the message is true, what difference does it make? You could get yourself in trouble if you are concerned about the truth, and then pick the 'wrong truth', indeed. But why would you do that? > And this has seemingly gotten worse over the past year, at least in my eyes. They say the Twitter algorithm feeds you what you want to see. This may be a "you" problem. I've never seen anything about crypto on Twitter. Mostly weather-related content and sometimes farmers posting pictures from the field. That's about it.
    - dragontamer 3y ago
      How old are you? Are you really so young that you've never had to make a decision in your life? Like, what to do with your money? Which goods to purchase? Whether or not Car X or Car Y is good / bad / shilled / whatever? Is school district X better or school district Y better, or is it just local FUD / fake crap? Investments is yet another decision for anyone who is trying to provide for themselves and/or their families, so the truth in stuff to invest into (or not invest into) is of high importance. Do you not make decisions that affect you... or people you care about? I'm struggling to figure out how naive you are and what your background is. If truth doesn't matter to you, so be it. I'm not here to convince you. But I'm still curious who you are and how you can get through life with this attitude. There's a myriad of such choices I encounter on a daily basis, be it at work, at home, in my family, in the families of my friends and so forth. To see someone so disinterested in such details (and apparently ignorant of the importance of truth in these situations) is... intriguing to me. ------------ I decided that Lunacoin was a scam, as are many other cryptocoins. So I am safe. My coworker, a close friend of mine, also agreed it was a scam. However, he didn't realize that Celsius was wrapped up in it. And therefore, lost $X0,000 to the situation. That's $X0,000 that his children will not be able to use through schooling, or for his next car or retirement. He placed his trust in Celsisus and got overrun by the Terra/Lunacoin disaster, despite paying attention to it he was unable to predict the trajectory of that situation in time to save his money. Those who found out the truth faster got their money out in time, before everything collapsed. ---------- I mean, I guess it hasn't really affected his life or my life. We all can afford a $X0,000 mistake here and there and not really sweat it. But it does change our purchase habits over the next few years to save back up and put our financial house back in order when these kinds of things happen.