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The share price hasn't only risen; over the past two years, it has fluctuated between $100 and $400 per share. Also - one defect means absolutely nothing. They

The share price hasn't only risen; over the past two years, it has fluctuated between $100 and $400 per share. Also - one defect means absolutely nothing. They make solid cars, everyone that owns one knows that.

manuelabeledo 3y ago
> They make solid cars, everyone that owns one knows that. Data seems to disagree with this statement [0] Tesla is also notorious for glaring QC issues, like missing bits and obvious panel gaps. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tanks-while-industry-improves-in-long-term-dependability-study/?sh=8ab6a241ff5f https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tank...
- misiti3780 3y ago
  If Tesla cars were such POS, they wouldnt be growing 50% Q/o/Q. They have the most popular selling cars in multiple countries (Model Y). The news picks up on the .0001% of problems and those customers are always the loudest (understandably). For ever cracked front casking, there are tens of thousands of solid castings. Austin alone makes 5K Ys per week. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-texas-5000-unit-weekly-production-rate/#:~:text=Tesla%20Giga%20Texas%20has%20reached,capacity%20with%20the%20Model%20Y https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-texas-5000-unit-weekly-....
  - manuelabeledo 3y ago
    The article references a study by J.D. Power, which runs every year or so. Hardly newsworthy. > If Tesla cars were such POS, they wouldnt be growing 50% Q/o/Q. They have the most popular selling cars in multiple countries (Model Y). What kind of argument is this? Shake Shack is one of the fastest growing fast food chains, yet they sell crappy, unhealthy food. Xiaomi arguably makes phones that aren't as good as Samsung or Apple, yet they are the fastest growing manufacturer.
    - misiti3780 3y ago
      Shake Shack serves delicious food. No one with a reasonable understanding would visit expecting healthy food. Before criticizing them, try launching a burger joint in the highly competitive US market of 2023 and see if you can achieve the same growth as Shake Shack. It's a bit harder than creating a CRUD app.
      - manuelabeledo 3y ago
        > Shake Shack serves delicious food. See, you lost me there already. Point is, even if you like it, it is still crappy food. It is just another example of how a product that is objectively bad for its customers, can succeed in the market. Tesla quality control is quantitatively worse than of more traditional brands like Honda. Finishes in Tesla cars are also quite a bit worse than other cars in the same category. I’m glad that you are enjoying your Tesla, but reality is what it is.
        misiti3780 3y ago
        comparing tesla to shake shack (even via growth) is not a good comparison because taste is 100% subjective, build quality is not subjective. im not saying that tesla doesnt have some issues with quality control, but most people get nice cars that work fine and look fine. you only hear about the outliers .
        manuelabeledo 3y ago
        > but most people get nice cars that work fine and look fine. you only hear about the outliers I'm pretty confident that Consumer Reports and J.D. Power account for more than just outliers.

manuelabeledo 3y ago

> They make solid cars, everyone that owns one knows that. Data seems to disagree with this statement [0] Tesla is also notorious for glaring QC issues, like missing bits and obvious panel gaps. [0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tanks-while-industry-improves-in-long-term-dependability-study/?sh=8ab6a241ff5f https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tank...

misiti3780 3y ago
If Tesla cars were such POS, they wouldnt be growing 50% Q/o/Q. They have the most popular selling cars in multiple countries (Model Y). The news picks up on the .0001% of problems and those customers are always the loudest (understandably). For ever cracked front casking, there are tens of thousands of solid castings. Austin alone makes 5K Ys per week. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-texas-5000-unit-weekly-production-rate/#:~:text=Tesla%20Giga%20Texas%20has%20reached,capacity%20with%20the%20Model%20Y https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-texas-5000-unit-weekly-....
- manuelabeledo 3y ago
  The article references a study by J.D. Power, which runs every year or so. Hardly newsworthy. > If Tesla cars were such POS, they wouldnt be growing 50% Q/o/Q. They have the most popular selling cars in multiple countries (Model Y). What kind of argument is this? Shake Shack is one of the fastest growing fast food chains, yet they sell crappy, unhealthy food. Xiaomi arguably makes phones that aren't as good as Samsung or Apple, yet they are the fastest growing manufacturer.
  - misiti3780 3y ago
    Shake Shack serves delicious food. No one with a reasonable understanding would visit expecting healthy food. Before criticizing them, try launching a burger joint in the highly competitive US market of 2023 and see if you can achieve the same growth as Shake Shack. It's a bit harder than creating a CRUD app.
    - manuelabeledo 3y ago
      > Shake Shack serves delicious food. See, you lost me there already. Point is, even if you like it, it is still crappy food. It is just another example of how a product that is objectively bad for its customers, can succeed in the market. Tesla quality control is quantitatively worse than of more traditional brands like Honda. Finishes in Tesla cars are also quite a bit worse than other cars in the same category. I’m glad that you are enjoying your Tesla, but reality is what it is.
      - misiti3780 3y ago
        comparing tesla to shake shack (even via growth) is not a good comparison because taste is 100% subjective, build quality is not subjective. im not saying that tesla doesnt have some issues with quality control, but most people get nice cars that work fine and look fine. you only hear about the outliers .
        manuelabeledo 3y ago
        > but most people get nice cars that work fine and look fine. you only hear about the outliers I'm pretty confident that Consumer Reports and J.D. Power account for more than just outliers.