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Note that turning 'privacy' on is buried in the UI; turning it off again requires just a single click. Such dark patterns, plus their involvement in crypto, th

Note that turning 'privacy' on is buried in the UI; turning it off again requires just a single click. Such dark patterns, plus their involvement in crypto, their shoddy treatment of paying users, their security incidents... make it harder for me to feel good about OpenAI spearheading the introduction of (real) AI into the world today.

astrange 3y ago
They're not involved in crypto, just the CEO is.
- thomassmith65 3y ago
  That's an important correction. Thanks, I got a bit carried away with the comment. There's enough hearsay on the internet, and I don't want to contribute. While we're at it, another exaggeration I made is "security incidents"; in fact, I am only aware of one.
whimsicalism 3y ago
> Such dark patterns, plus their involvement in crypto, their shoddy treatment of paying users, their security incidents... make it harder for me to feel good about OpenAI spearheading the introduction of (real) AI into the world today. Interesting. My opinion is it is a great product that works well for me, I don't find my treatment as a paying user shoddy, and their security incident gives me pause.
- thomassmith65 3y ago
  > I don't find my treatment as a paying user shoddy I have never payed for a service with worse uptime in my life than ChatGPT. Why? So that OpenAI could ramp up their user-base of both free and paying users. They knowingly took on far more paying users than they could properly support for months. There are justifications for the terrible uptime that are perfectly valid, but in the end, a customer-focused company would have issued a refund to the paying customers for the months during which they were shafted by OpenAI prioritizing growth. That doesn't mean OpenAI isn't terrific in some ways. They're also lousy in others. With so many tech companies, the lousy aspects grow in significance as the years pass. OpenAI, because of all the reasons in my parent comment, is not off to a great start, imo.

astrange 3y ago

They're not involved in crypto, just the CEO is.

thomassmith65 3y ago
That's an important correction. Thanks, I got a bit carried away with the comment. There's enough hearsay on the internet, and I don't want to contribute. While we're at it, another exaggeration I made is "security incidents"; in fact, I am only aware of one.

whimsicalism 3y ago

> Such dark patterns, plus their involvement in crypto, their shoddy treatment of paying users, their security incidents... make it harder for me to feel good about OpenAI spearheading the introduction of (real) AI into the world today. Interesting. My opinion is it is a great product that works well for me, I don't find my treatment as a paying user shoddy, and their security incident gives me pause.

thomassmith65 3y ago
> I don't find my treatment as a paying user shoddy I have never payed for a service with worse uptime in my life than ChatGPT. Why? So that OpenAI could ramp up their user-base of both free and paying users. They knowingly took on far more paying users than they could properly support for months. There are justifications for the terrible uptime that are perfectly valid, but in the end, a customer-focused company would have issued a refund to the paying customers for the months during which they were shafted by OpenAI prioritizing growth. That doesn't mean OpenAI isn't terrific in some ways. They're also lousy in others. With so many tech companies, the lousy aspects grow in significance as the years pass. OpenAI, because of all the reasons in my parent comment, is not off to a great start, imo.