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> "Stories often touch on topics like space travel, benevolent robots, disease-curing nanobots, and deep-sea exploration. They lack aliens and beings with super

> "Stories often touch on topics like space travel, benevolent robots, disease-curing nanobots, and deep-sea exploration. They lack aliens and beings with superpowers. Instead, the real superheroes are the exceptional North Korean scientists and technologists who carry the weight of the world on their shoulders." Here is an interesting symmetry as reflected by ideological mirrors. In NK, the state sanctioned imaginal worlds lack others that are superior, and superheroes are loyal technocrats. Here in the West, "market driven" Hollywood insists superheroes are distinct tiny subset of humanity and that it is to our benefit that they are hidden but highly organized. And no, you can't just become one of the special superheroes. Both are aiming to pacify the target society.

dotnet00 3y ago
The difference that makes that much less logical being that in the West the government is not determining what people can watch, they're watching what they enjoy.
- mcpackieh 3y ago
  Western writers (usually) aren't taking direct orders from the government, but that doesn't mean they're impartial weather vanes that reveal currents in society but never try to manipulate (or fabricate) those social currents as they see fit.
  - dotnet00 3y ago
    And yet that doesn't support these conspiracies you and thread OP want to believe in.
    - mcpackieh 3y ago
      What conspiracies are you talking about? You should read Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chompsky. Most of what seems to be a conspiracy in western media is not actually organized as a conspiracy, but is emergent behavior in a system in which individual actors have aligned incentives. Acting individually without coordination, people hire and promote people who think like them, and ape then adopt the beliefs of their superiors. I said usually western writers don't take direct orders from the government because sometimes they do, and this isn't even a secret. Hollywood lets the US military rewrite movies whenever they want access to military hardware and facilities. And during wartime, the US government employs writers to produce propaganda. Superhero comics in particular have their roots in overt war propaganda.
      - dotnet00 3y ago
        The conspiracies being your attempt to argue that the superhero movie fad is some absurd attempt at making billionaires look good. If you look for a conspiracy in everything, you're going to find it in everything. Entertainment is generally just entertainment and this sort of overanalysis of things to push an agenda has been part of what has made so much of modern entertainment so cookie cutter.
        saiya-jin 3y ago
        Yeah but just with literally everything else in life, everything is way more complex than first glance suggests, interconnected and if you actually care to dig deeper, you find interesting stuff. Nobody sane argues western Illuminati is steering and manipulating everything and everybody towards desired future, yet mass media manipulation is extremely common practice, ie mr Murdoch and similar folks have significant powers. Also lets not forget that CIA was very active in Hollywood for many decades with light and not so light touches here and there, I mean its the propaganda tool for US hegemony and spreading western view on society, values, 'american dream' etc. If you want to shoot say an action movie with real US planes landing on real aircraft carriers, US navy will have non-trivial impact on your movie and its story (so most end up as over-patriotic to the point of being unwatchable for many non-US viewers). Its all natural and logical, all humans like to see or hear stories that make us feel good even if its not proper truth, much more than stories telling some ugly hard truths.
        norman_roman 3y ago
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        mcpackieh 3y ago
        I just told you it's not a conspiracy, you're tilting at windmills. I have not proposed a conspiracy to create movies like this, I don't think there's a cabal of billionaires who dreamed up and coordinate this as a deliberate propaganda campaign. I assert that the Hollywood system creates movies like this because because of the way it is structured and the nature of making movies. People who fit the mold and are naturally inclined to make movies like this get promoted and given opportunities by like-minded people. People who don't jive with the crowd never have the opportunity to make movies of their own, because making movies (particularly blockbusters) requires access to a system with lots of capital and manpower. I'm not the one looking for conspiracies. You're looking for a conspiracy in what I'm saying so that you can dismiss it. Read Manufacturing Consent.
    - pessimizer 3y ago
      Op-Ed: Why does the Pentagon give a helping hand to films like ‘Top Gun’? https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-05-30/top-gun-maverick-memorial-day-tom-cruise-pentagon-propaganda https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-05-30/top-gun-mav... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theaters_of_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theaters_of_War Pay No Attention to the G-Man Behind the Curtain https://www.theatlantic.com/membership/archive/2018/03/pay-no-attention-to-the-g-man-behind-the-curtain/555839/ https://www.theatlantic.com/membership/archive/2018/03/pay-n... In the ‘90s the U.S. Government Paid TV Networks to Weave “Anti-Drug” Messaging Into Their Plot Lines. Here Are the Worst Examples. https://www.columnblog.com/p/in-the-90s-the-us-government-paid https://www.columnblog.com/p/in-the-90s-the-us-government-pa... Education Dept. paid commentator to promote law https://web.archive.org/web/20100722051019/http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-williams-whitehouse_x.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20100722051019/http://www.usatod... https://www.gao.gov/products/b-305368 https://www.gao.gov/products/b-305368
- sdsd 3y ago
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  - dotnet00 3y ago
    You're too absorbed in your own cynicisim to see the obvious. There is hundreds of thousands of hours of all sorts of content added to the internet every day from all over the world. Western governments have nowhere near the sort of control over what their people can see to pull off anything anywhere near comparable to NK's attempts at controlling their people's entertainment.
    - c_crank 3y ago
      The whims of the morally aggressive Western elite substitute for heavy handed regulation from top down. Although recent moves have been made to try and institute a CCP style bureau of misinformation even in America.
      - dotnet00 3y ago
        While I agree that social media is way too aggressive with moral policing of content, I can still trivially watch any of the morally reprehensible stuff that would be banned from there.
  - havelhovel 3y ago
    I guess I’m also pretty naive then. Got any examples of the US government dictating what people can watch through censorship on par with North Korea or even China?
    - deleted 3y ago
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- jacquesm 3y ago
  You watch from what's available.
  - havelhovel 3y ago
    And in the West what’s available is the product of people making what they want to make with relatively few restrictions.
    - jpg1 3y ago
      No, you only are able to watch a tiny part of what is marketed for you. What doesn't get money doesn't get views.
      - devcpp 3y ago
        Not anymore. I can't imagine what media doesn't have a free type of publisher (Youtube for videos, Amazon or Lulu for text, itch.io for games, Github for software, play store for apps, etc), and getting traction is as easy as a Reddit/HN post. If your content is good, it takes 5 minutes to get it to the entire world for free.
    - jacquesm 3y ago
      I so wish that that were true. No, a lot more is made than what is available to you.
      - devcpp 3y ago
        Not really. These days, if you have talent, spreading your work is as easy as making a Reddit or HN post and get traction in no time at all. What sinks probably isn't worth much attention. Of course, works are also made and not published anywhere, but people are free to stay a hermit and not publish their work.
        calderknight 3y ago
        My experience with Reddit is that what doesn't sink isn't worth much attention.
cuteboy19 3y ago
That is not categorically true. There is a great diversity of superhero origins. Some are allegories for minorities (X Men), some are not secretive at all and a regular part of society, sometimes it turns out that the organisation is not to our benefit, sometimes they are just plain evil. Still others are secretive but not organized
mcpackieh 3y ago
> And no, you can't just become one of the special superheroes. Both are aiming to pacify the target society. Worse: You aren't such a superhero, but by random chance you might be chosen to become one and you are invited to imagine yourself in that situation. Any common person who might want to limit your hypothetical powers is an awful bigot and many of the stories revolve around tension between those with powers who would oppress the plebs vs those with powers who wish to benevolently rule over the plebs (but certainly not cede their power to them.) Also, when the superheroes abuse their position and power it's okay when they're motivated by good intentions, because the ends justify the means and they'll surely revert back to being good once the crisis is over. Power doesn't corrupt everybody who gets it, you can trust the good superheroes with their unchecked power. All of this mirrors the way Americans are encouraged to think about the ultra-rich, encouraged to believe they might randomly join the ranks of the ultra rich one day. Encouraged to believe that they could be a good and benevolent billionaire, and that the plebs who would limit their wealth are harmful bigots. Taught to believe that the meaningful conflict is between the good billionaires who would benevolently rule, opposed to the bad ones who can only be kept in check by the good ones.
- darkmarmot 3y ago
  Better: shows like "The Boys" at least provide a gruesome window into "realistic" superhero behavior in a corporate hellscape.
  - Mainan_Tagonist 3y ago
    And The Watchmen long before that
- c_crank 3y ago
  Reality: Americans have not been ruled by the superhero-like ultra rich for decades, and are starting to notice that little is improving and much is getting worse.
  - BartjeD 3y ago
    I think a lot improved for the countless people who got medicaid. When you assert something hasn't improved, it tells me it hasnt improved according to your personal criteria. I suspect those dont cover the wellfare and health of your society.
narrator 3y ago
Jules Verne is fun to read in this regard because the people who organized to go to the moon in "From Earth To The Moon" were simply part of a gun club that chose to fund the effort privately, not the government. It reflects how people had a different relationship with the government in the 19th century. Before the income tax, people like Rockefeller would just bail companies out during panics from their personal bank accounts, much to the consternation of bankers like J.P Morgan. Private individuals were massively more economically powerful and that's were people looked for progress. Only Elon Musk comes close to this level of economic power in the modern era, especially because he is a hands on industrialist and not a financier, but there were probably a few hundred who had that level of influence back then and they were mostly industrialists.
- philwelch 3y ago
  > Before the income tax, people like Rockefeller would just bail companies out during panics from their personal bank accounts, much to the consternation of bankers like J.P Morgan. To my understanding it was Morgan and not Rockefeller who engaged in these kinds of bailouts.
  - atdrummond 3y ago
    I think OP’s point was that JP Morgan wanted to see that role supplanted by the government, even if he was forced to sometimes play guarantor himself.
- judge2020 3y ago
  While Elon is the only one with the intuition to bail out a company as large as Twitter, there probably are a few dozen Rockefeller CEOs of various SV/tech-adjacent companies that can and do use their power to command acquisitions of medium size startups that have promising tech but suffer from issues of cash flow or business strategy.
  - worrycue 3y ago
    > While Elon is the only one with the intuition to bail out a company as large as Twitter What intuition? Wasn’t he forced to buy Twitter by the SEC? He bought it at 4x the valuation - Twitter’s ex-shareholders made it out like bandits. Now he is losing money hand over fist thanks to Twitter - as Twitter’s ad revenue has dropped due to his changes (and big mouth) and he is paying to the tune of 1 billion USD a year in interest from the loan to buy Twitter; Twitter’s yearly income on the best of years have come nowhere close to a billion.
jacquesm 3y ago
Fortunately, the 'West' is larger than just Hollywood.
philwelch 3y ago
> And no, you can't just become one of the special superheroes. Two of the most iconic superheroes, Batman and Iron Man, are normal human beings who became superheroes from hard work.
- jborean93 3y ago
  Luckily they both didn't have rich parents in charge of large companies. Not saying they didn't work hard but they certainly had help financially that unfortunately normal people probably don't have.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  And with Batman, a healthy chunk of inheritance.
  - fnordpiglet 3y ago
    Iron man too
- perardi 3y ago
  “Normal” human beings, as in, the rich scions of super-genius hyper-capitalists who have a functionally unlimited amount of inherited capital to fall back on as they create their own super-hero enterprises.
- anon25783 3y ago
  They're billionaires. No one worth billions of dollars is "normal". Fewer than three thousand people alive are billionaires.
  - philwelch 3y ago
    And zero people alive can fly or shoot heat rays out of their eyeballs, so it should have been obvious what I meant in context.
  - raincole 3y ago
    But the whole US ideology is about anyone can be a rich. Of course in real world it's not true, but it's a direct contradiction against the GP's weird "western ideaology = you can't just become one of the special superheroes" conspiracy.
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raincole 3y ago
> Both are aiming to pacify the target society. You know what the big secret is? Let me tell you. Everything is aiming to pacify the society. Movies, books, TV shows, video games: obviously tittytainment. Time wasters to waste your time and energy. Education: to produce workers who are useful for the big system. Religions: the ultimate form of brainwashing. Yoga/Meditation/etc: religions but instead of gods we follow some gurus, even worse. Unemployment: makes you at the mercy of welfare, a.k.a. the government. Getting a job: becoming a slave for evil cooperations so they can lobby the government more. Also remember to pay your tax. Voting: makes you feel you're in control and living in a democracy while you're just choosing from two equally bad guys. Spedning time with your family: there are people you care? Great, now if you ever riot the gov knows who to keep as hostages. If you swing the hammmer with enough force, you can make everything a nail.
- mmmmmmtoes 3y ago
  You can say that those all have pacifying effects, but how do they "aim" to do so?
worrycue 3y ago
> Both are aiming to pacify the target society In the West it’s really to make money. No one cares if the target audience is pacified or not - might even be more profitable if they are riled up to spend more money.

dotnet00 3y ago

The difference that makes that much less logical being that in the West the government is not determining what people can watch, they're watching what they enjoy.

mcpackieh 3y ago
Western writers (usually) aren't taking direct orders from the government, but that doesn't mean they're impartial weather vanes that reveal currents in society but never try to manipulate (or fabricate) those social currents as they see fit.
- dotnet00 3y ago
  And yet that doesn't support these conspiracies you and thread OP want to believe in.
  - mcpackieh 3y ago
    What conspiracies are you talking about? You should read Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chompsky. Most of what seems to be a conspiracy in western media is not actually organized as a conspiracy, but is emergent behavior in a system in which individual actors have aligned incentives. Acting individually without coordination, people hire and promote people who think like them, and ape then adopt the beliefs of their superiors. I said usually western writers don't take direct orders from the government because sometimes they do, and this isn't even a secret. Hollywood lets the US military rewrite movies whenever they want access to military hardware and facilities. And during wartime, the US government employs writers to produce propaganda. Superhero comics in particular have their roots in overt war propaganda.
    - dotnet00 3y ago
      The conspiracies being your attempt to argue that the superhero movie fad is some absurd attempt at making billionaires look good. If you look for a conspiracy in everything, you're going to find it in everything. Entertainment is generally just entertainment and this sort of overanalysis of things to push an agenda has been part of what has made so much of modern entertainment so cookie cutter.
      - saiya-jin 3y ago
        Yeah but just with literally everything else in life, everything is way more complex than first glance suggests, interconnected and if you actually care to dig deeper, you find interesting stuff. Nobody sane argues western Illuminati is steering and manipulating everything and everybody towards desired future, yet mass media manipulation is extremely common practice, ie mr Murdoch and similar folks have significant powers. Also lets not forget that CIA was very active in Hollywood for many decades with light and not so light touches here and there, I mean its the propaganda tool for US hegemony and spreading western view on society, values, 'american dream' etc. If you want to shoot say an action movie with real US planes landing on real aircraft carriers, US navy will have non-trivial impact on your movie and its story (so most end up as over-patriotic to the point of being unwatchable for many non-US viewers). Its all natural and logical, all humans like to see or hear stories that make us feel good even if its not proper truth, much more than stories telling some ugly hard truths.
        norman_roman 3y ago
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      - mcpackieh 3y ago
        I just told you it's not a conspiracy, you're tilting at windmills. I have not proposed a conspiracy to create movies like this, I don't think there's a cabal of billionaires who dreamed up and coordinate this as a deliberate propaganda campaign. I assert that the Hollywood system creates movies like this because because of the way it is structured and the nature of making movies. People who fit the mold and are naturally inclined to make movies like this get promoted and given opportunities by like-minded people. People who don't jive with the crowd never have the opportunity to make movies of their own, because making movies (particularly blockbusters) requires access to a system with lots of capital and manpower. I'm not the one looking for conspiracies. You're looking for a conspiracy in what I'm saying so that you can dismiss it. Read Manufacturing Consent.
  - pessimizer 3y ago
    Op-Ed: Why does the Pentagon give a helping hand to films like ‘Top Gun’? https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-05-30/top-gun-maverick-memorial-day-tom-cruise-pentagon-propaganda https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-05-30/top-gun-mav... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theaters_of_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theaters_of_War Pay No Attention to the G-Man Behind the Curtain https://www.theatlantic.com/membership/archive/2018/03/pay-no-attention-to-the-g-man-behind-the-curtain/555839/ https://www.theatlantic.com/membership/archive/2018/03/pay-n... In the ‘90s the U.S. Government Paid TV Networks to Weave “Anti-Drug” Messaging Into Their Plot Lines. Here Are the Worst Examples. https://www.columnblog.com/p/in-the-90s-the-us-government-paid https://www.columnblog.com/p/in-the-90s-the-us-government-pa... Education Dept. paid commentator to promote law https://web.archive.org/web/20100722051019/http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-williams-whitehouse_x.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20100722051019/http://www.usatod... https://www.gao.gov/products/b-305368 https://www.gao.gov/products/b-305368
sdsd 3y ago
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- dotnet00 3y ago
  You're too absorbed in your own cynicisim to see the obvious. There is hundreds of thousands of hours of all sorts of content added to the internet every day from all over the world. Western governments have nowhere near the sort of control over what their people can see to pull off anything anywhere near comparable to NK's attempts at controlling their people's entertainment.
  - c_crank 3y ago
    The whims of the morally aggressive Western elite substitute for heavy handed regulation from top down. Although recent moves have been made to try and institute a CCP style bureau of misinformation even in America.
    - dotnet00 3y ago
      While I agree that social media is way too aggressive with moral policing of content, I can still trivially watch any of the morally reprehensible stuff that would be banned from there.
- havelhovel 3y ago
  I guess I’m also pretty naive then. Got any examples of the US government dictating what people can watch through censorship on par with North Korea or even China?
  - deleted 3y ago
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jacquesm 3y ago
You watch from what's available.
- havelhovel 3y ago
  And in the West what’s available is the product of people making what they want to make with relatively few restrictions.
  - jpg1 3y ago
    No, you only are able to watch a tiny part of what is marketed for you. What doesn't get money doesn't get views.
    - devcpp 3y ago
      Not anymore. I can't imagine what media doesn't have a free type of publisher (Youtube for videos, Amazon or Lulu for text, itch.io for games, Github for software, play store for apps, etc), and getting traction is as easy as a Reddit/HN post. If your content is good, it takes 5 minutes to get it to the entire world for free.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    I so wish that that were true. No, a lot more is made than what is available to you.
    - devcpp 3y ago
      Not really. These days, if you have talent, spreading your work is as easy as making a Reddit or HN post and get traction in no time at all. What sinks probably isn't worth much attention. Of course, works are also made and not published anywhere, but people are free to stay a hermit and not publish their work.
      - calderknight 3y ago
        My experience with Reddit is that what doesn't sink isn't worth much attention.

cuteboy19 3y ago

That is not categorically true. There is a great diversity of superhero origins. Some are allegories for minorities (X Men), some are not secretive at all and a regular part of society, sometimes it turns out that the organisation is not to our benefit, sometimes they are just plain evil. Still others are secretive but not organized

mcpackieh 3y ago

> And no, you can't just become one of the special superheroes. Both are aiming to pacify the target society. Worse: You aren't such a superhero, but by random chance you might be chosen to become one and you are invited to imagine yourself in that situation. Any common person who might want to limit your hypothetical powers is an awful bigot and many of the stories revolve around tension between those with powers who would oppress the plebs vs those with powers who wish to benevolently rule over the plebs (but certainly not cede their power to them.) Also, when the superheroes abuse their position and power it's okay when they're motivated by good intentions, because the ends justify the means and they'll surely revert back to being good once the crisis is over. Power doesn't corrupt everybody who gets it, you can trust the good superheroes with their unchecked power. All of this mirrors the way Americans are encouraged to think about the ultra-rich, encouraged to believe they might randomly join the ranks of the ultra rich one day. Encouraged to believe that they could be a good and benevolent billionaire, and that the plebs who would limit their wealth are harmful bigots. Taught to believe that the meaningful conflict is between the good billionaires who would benevolently rule, opposed to the bad ones who can only be kept in check by the good ones.

darkmarmot 3y ago
Better: shows like "The Boys" at least provide a gruesome window into "realistic" superhero behavior in a corporate hellscape.
- Mainan_Tagonist 3y ago
  And The Watchmen long before that
c_crank 3y ago
Reality: Americans have not been ruled by the superhero-like ultra rich for decades, and are starting to notice that little is improving and much is getting worse.
- BartjeD 3y ago
  I think a lot improved for the countless people who got medicaid. When you assert something hasn't improved, it tells me it hasnt improved according to your personal criteria. I suspect those dont cover the wellfare and health of your society.

narrator 3y ago

Jules Verne is fun to read in this regard because the people who organized to go to the moon in "From Earth To The Moon" were simply part of a gun club that chose to fund the effort privately, not the government. It reflects how people had a different relationship with the government in the 19th century. Before the income tax, people like Rockefeller would just bail companies out during panics from their personal bank accounts, much to the consternation of bankers like J.P Morgan. Private individuals were massively more economically powerful and that's were people looked for progress. Only Elon Musk comes close to this level of economic power in the modern era, especially because he is a hands on industrialist and not a financier, but there were probably a few hundred who had that level of influence back then and they were mostly industrialists.

philwelch 3y ago
> Before the income tax, people like Rockefeller would just bail companies out during panics from their personal bank accounts, much to the consternation of bankers like J.P Morgan. To my understanding it was Morgan and not Rockefeller who engaged in these kinds of bailouts.
- atdrummond 3y ago
  I think OP’s point was that JP Morgan wanted to see that role supplanted by the government, even if he was forced to sometimes play guarantor himself.
judge2020 3y ago
While Elon is the only one with the intuition to bail out a company as large as Twitter, there probably are a few dozen Rockefeller CEOs of various SV/tech-adjacent companies that can and do use their power to command acquisitions of medium size startups that have promising tech but suffer from issues of cash flow or business strategy.
- worrycue 3y ago
  > While Elon is the only one with the intuition to bail out a company as large as Twitter What intuition? Wasn’t he forced to buy Twitter by the SEC? He bought it at 4x the valuation - Twitter’s ex-shareholders made it out like bandits. Now he is losing money hand over fist thanks to Twitter - as Twitter’s ad revenue has dropped due to his changes (and big mouth) and he is paying to the tune of 1 billion USD a year in interest from the loan to buy Twitter; Twitter’s yearly income on the best of years have come nowhere close to a billion.

jacquesm 3y ago

Fortunately, the 'West' is larger than just Hollywood.

philwelch 3y ago

> And no, you can't just become one of the special superheroes. Two of the most iconic superheroes, Batman and Iron Man, are normal human beings who became superheroes from hard work.

jborean93 3y ago
Luckily they both didn't have rich parents in charge of large companies. Not saying they didn't work hard but they certainly had help financially that unfortunately normal people probably don't have.
actionfromafar 3y ago
And with Batman, a healthy chunk of inheritance.
- fnordpiglet 3y ago
  Iron man too
perardi 3y ago
“Normal” human beings, as in, the rich scions of super-genius hyper-capitalists who have a functionally unlimited amount of inherited capital to fall back on as they create their own super-hero enterprises.
anon25783 3y ago
They're billionaires. No one worth billions of dollars is "normal". Fewer than three thousand people alive are billionaires.
- philwelch 3y ago
  And zero people alive can fly or shoot heat rays out of their eyeballs, so it should have been obvious what I meant in context.
- raincole 3y ago
  But the whole US ideology is about anyone can be a rich. Of course in real world it's not true, but it's a direct contradiction against the GP's weird "western ideaology = you can't just become one of the special superheroes" conspiracy.

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raincole 3y ago

> Both are aiming to pacify the target society. You know what the big secret is? Let me tell you. Everything is aiming to pacify the society. Movies, books, TV shows, video games: obviously tittytainment. Time wasters to waste your time and energy. Education: to produce workers who are useful for the big system. Religions: the ultimate form of brainwashing. Yoga/Meditation/etc: religions but instead of gods we follow some gurus, even worse. Unemployment: makes you at the mercy of welfare, a.k.a. the government. Getting a job: becoming a slave for evil cooperations so they can lobby the government more. Also remember to pay your tax. Voting: makes you feel you're in control and living in a democracy while you're just choosing from two equally bad guys. Spedning time with your family: there are people you care? Great, now if you ever riot the gov knows who to keep as hostages. If you swing the hammmer with enough force, you can make everything a nail.

mmmmmmtoes 3y ago
You can say that those all have pacifying effects, but how do they "aim" to do so?

worrycue 3y ago

> Both are aiming to pacify the target society In the West it’s really to make money. No one cares if the target audience is pacified or not - might even be more profitable if they are riled up to spend more money.