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What reason do you have to believe that the author was not rigorous in coming to his conclusions? What "peer-reviewed" journals or publications of you read whi

What reason do you have to believe that the author was not rigorous in coming to his conclusions? What "peer-reviewed" journals or publications of you read which have made a serious investigation into "demonic possession" to convince you that the author has no idea of what he is talking about? You sound like "authoritative" government institutions stating that "UFOs don't exist". Forgetting the fact of "how can they be authorities on a phenomenon that doesn't exist"? I can only link you to my earlier comment which isn't going down too well here. > I find it rather amusing how people who attend educational institutions teaching the scientific method that were setup by the Church go on to criticize Church views that don't agree with an outlook arising from their education. >Don't they believe that the same officials of the religious institutions which setup the educational institutions they attend were and still are perspicacious enough to judge whether demonic possession is real or not?

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
Mentalism as an explanation of how someone could demonstrate "hidden knowledge" is well-known enough that they appear at least a little foolish ending their paragraph with, "These are skills that cannot be explained except by special psychic or preternatural ability." They could at least be kind enough to go on to explain why they discount cold reading as a possibility. I'd personally be interested to see a trained mentalist interview these people because it would be much more telling if they arrived at the same conclusions. But I'm also thinking there's a likely reason that such possessed people avoid allowing themselves to be filmed.
ajuc 3y ago
> What reason do you have to believe that the author was not rigorous in coming to his conclusions? The arguments provided in the article. I quoted them for your convenience. > What "peer-reviewed" Why the quotes? I haven't mentioned peer review once. > You sound like "authoritative" government institutions stating that "UFOs don't exist" UFOs as in "unidentified flying objects" obviously exist. Nobody denies that. What people deny is aliens visiting Earth and us either not noticing, or covering it up. > I can only link you to my earlier comment which isn't going down too well here. Your comment makes no sense. There's attacking the person, there's attacking the person's family, and then there's this. I'd call this "argument from institutional multi-generational hypocrisy". If your country was created by people who believed in slavery - you can't be against slavery. I can't even. Fascinating POV. BTW many universities weren't even set up by church. For example the one I graduated (UMCS in Poland).
- vfclists 3y ago
  > BTW many universities weren't even set up by church. For example the one I graduated (UMCS in Poland). Oh yes. The one you graduated from was setup by the Church, or founded by people whose educational lineage goes back to the Church. Communism doesn't change the fact that all educational institutions from the Middle Ages were setup by the Church.
  - ajuc 3y ago
    How convenient that you start counting in middle ages :)

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago

Mentalism as an explanation of how someone could demonstrate "hidden knowledge" is well-known enough that they appear at least a little foolish ending their paragraph with, "These are skills that cannot be explained except by special psychic or preternatural ability." They could at least be kind enough to go on to explain why they discount cold reading as a possibility. I'd personally be interested to see a trained mentalist interview these people because it would be much more telling if they arrived at the same conclusions. But I'm also thinking there's a likely reason that such possessed people avoid allowing themselves to be filmed.

ajuc 3y ago

> What reason do you have to believe that the author was not rigorous in coming to his conclusions? The arguments provided in the article. I quoted them for your convenience. > What "peer-reviewed" Why the quotes? I haven't mentioned peer review once. > You sound like "authoritative" government institutions stating that "UFOs don't exist" UFOs as in "unidentified flying objects" obviously exist. Nobody denies that. What people deny is aliens visiting Earth and us either not noticing, or covering it up. > I can only link you to my earlier comment which isn't going down too well here. Your comment makes no sense. There's attacking the person, there's attacking the person's family, and then there's this. I'd call this "argument from institutional multi-generational hypocrisy". If your country was created by people who believed in slavery - you can't be against slavery. I can't even. Fascinating POV. BTW many universities weren't even set up by church. For example the one I graduated (UMCS in Poland).

vfclists 3y ago
> BTW many universities weren't even set up by church. For example the one I graduated (UMCS in Poland). Oh yes. The one you graduated from was setup by the Church, or founded by people whose educational lineage goes back to the Church. Communism doesn't change the fact that all educational institutions from the Middle Ages were setup by the Church.
- ajuc 3y ago
  How convenient that you start counting in middle ages :)