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I thought that Microsoft was busy with enterprises yet OpenAI announces a product for enterprises. I have a feeling that the two do not get along

anonyfox 3y ago
Or maybe they got urged to offset more operational costs - and I would believe that companies already paying for Microsoft things Wille happily pay for OpenAI in addition just to be safe.
- worrycue 3y ago
  Why the heck would anyone pay for the same thing from 2 different vendors?
  - aabhay 3y ago
    You’ve not worked with Salesforce or Oracle ISVs…
datadrivenangel 3y ago
Sell the same product under two brands at the same time? Optimal business strategy. Makes it look like there's more competition, and changes the decision from "do we use ChatGPT" to "Which GPT vendor do we use?"
- brigadier132 3y ago
  Microsoft has a stake in OpenAI but they don't have a controlling interest in it. What they got instead was exclusive access to the models on Azure. So they benefit from OpenAIs success but they benefit more from their own success in the space and in a way they are competitors.
  - flangola7 3y ago
    Exclusive access? Source?
    - adt 3y ago
      Might be old (2020), as OpenAI models are now also covered by Quora for Poe.com and others: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/09/22/microsoft-teams-up-with-openai-to-exclusively-license-gpt-3-language-model/ https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/09/22/microsoft-teams-...
      - rymate1234 3y ago
        They probably just call the public API same as everyone else using it outside Microsoft. The exclusive license refers to having access to the models, which is probably why they were able to finetune Bing AI.
Xeophon 3y ago
It’s pretty interesting to see both companies copying each other. Bing Chat has GPT4 with Vision, Chat History and some other goodies whereas OpenAI extends towards B2B.
stuckinhell 3y ago
isn't microsoft unable to scale their version of chatgpt 4 ?
ttul 3y ago
Microsoft is primarily a mid-market company. They definitely sell to enterprise as well, but what makes Microsoft truly great is their ability to sell at enormous scale through a vast network of partners to every SMB in the world. OpenAI is a tiny company, relative to Microsoft. They can’t afford to build a giant partner network. At best, they can offer a forum-supported set of products for the little guys and a richly supported enterprise suite. But the middle market will be Microsoft’s to own, as they always do.
codebolt 3y ago
At my work we've been using Bing Enterprise for a brief while now, which it states is based on ChatGPT4 and has the same promise of keeping data private. From what I've seen, Bing Chat is superior to ChatGPT4 in many respects.

anonyfox 3y ago

Or maybe they got urged to offset more operational costs - and I would believe that companies already paying for Microsoft things Wille happily pay for OpenAI in addition just to be safe.

worrycue 3y ago
Why the heck would anyone pay for the same thing from 2 different vendors?
- aabhay 3y ago
  You’ve not worked with Salesforce or Oracle ISVs…

datadrivenangel 3y ago

Sell the same product under two brands at the same time? Optimal business strategy. Makes it look like there's more competition, and changes the decision from "do we use ChatGPT" to "Which GPT vendor do we use?"

brigadier132 3y ago
Microsoft has a stake in OpenAI but they don't have a controlling interest in it. What they got instead was exclusive access to the models on Azure. So they benefit from OpenAIs success but they benefit more from their own success in the space and in a way they are competitors.
- flangola7 3y ago
  Exclusive access? Source?
  - adt 3y ago
    Might be old (2020), as OpenAI models are now also covered by Quora for Poe.com and others: https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/09/22/microsoft-teams-up-with-openai-to-exclusively-license-gpt-3-language-model/ https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2020/09/22/microsoft-teams-...
    - rymate1234 3y ago
      They probably just call the public API same as everyone else using it outside Microsoft. The exclusive license refers to having access to the models, which is probably why they were able to finetune Bing AI.

Xeophon 3y ago

It’s pretty interesting to see both companies copying each other. Bing Chat has GPT4 with Vision, Chat History and some other goodies whereas OpenAI extends towards B2B.

stuckinhell 3y ago

isn't microsoft unable to scale their version of chatgpt 4 ?

ttul 3y ago

Microsoft is primarily a mid-market company. They definitely sell to enterprise as well, but what makes Microsoft truly great is their ability to sell at enormous scale through a vast network of partners to every SMB in the world. OpenAI is a tiny company, relative to Microsoft. They can’t afford to build a giant partner network. At best, they can offer a forum-supported set of products for the little guys and a richly supported enterprise suite. But the middle market will be Microsoft’s to own, as they always do.

codebolt 3y ago

At my work we've been using Bing Enterprise for a brief while now, which it states is based on ChatGPT4 and has the same promise of keeping data private. From what I've seen, Bing Chat is superior to ChatGPT4 in many respects.