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The Mach E has a mere 40mi less range (290mi) and slightly better performance than the Model Y. They are also adding support for NACS (Tesla charger port) at so

The Mach E has a mere 40mi less range (290mi) and slightly better performance than the Model Y. They are also adding support for NACS (Tesla charger port) at some point soon. That's the only comparable EV that I know of at the price point, but there's definitely more.

Reubachi 3y ago
Ford can't sell Mach Es to save their life, though, because they don't have ludicrous mode/800 HP/name appeal. Massive flop from Ford (and I say that as the biggest ford fanboy in this thread.) You and I know that the ford is made much better for "less", for obvious reasons But ask yourself, who is going to buy a heavy electric SUV from Ford? -a typical mustang GT buyer? No way. -a person who currently has a model S/Y/3? fat chance. -a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle". -A ford Fan? I'll gladly take the f150 lightning over mustang. I want to see the f150 lightning and similar really make a dent/impression.
- stapedium 3y ago
  Target market for the MachE is explorer and escape owners looking at EVs. Lightning and MachE aren’t anywhere close to the same price point. # of MachEs at local dealer = 3 # of F150s sitting on lot >1 month = 50-100
- zamalek 3y ago
  You missed the "I want a get from A to B SUV, without Tesla" - which is squarely me. The type of shit in the article, right to repair, and general Elon bullshit has me very uninterested in Tesla. > -a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle". It is actually SUV-sized (unlike the likes of the Kona, which you may be comparing it to - it is only shaped like an SUV). It can be cheaper than the Model Y, depending on the sku - and those two are the only budget EV SUVs that I am aware of (the E-Tron and iX are significantly more expensive). Bland? Who cares. There are people who only care about the utility that a vehicle has to offer. It is servicing an area of the market that only has one other deeply incompetent (as-per the article) competitor.

Reubachi 3y ago

Ford can't sell Mach Es to save their life, though, because they don't have ludicrous mode/800 HP/name appeal. Massive flop from Ford (and I say that as the biggest ford fanboy in this thread.) You and I know that the ford is made much better for "less", for obvious reasons But ask yourself, who is going to buy a heavy electric SUV from Ford? -a typical mustang GT buyer? No way. -a person who currently has a model S/Y/3? fat chance. -a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle". -A ford Fan? I'll gladly take the f150 lightning over mustang. I want to see the f150 lightning and similar really make a dent/impression.

stapedium 3y ago
Target market for the MachE is explorer and escape owners looking at EVs. Lightning and MachE aren’t anywhere close to the same price point. # of MachEs at local dealer = 3 # of F150s sitting on lot >1 month = 50-100
zamalek 3y ago
You missed the "I want a get from A to B SUV, without Tesla" - which is squarely me. The type of shit in the article, right to repair, and general Elon bullshit has me very uninterested in Tesla. > -a new EV buyer? Too expensive and "bland". Does all EV things "middle". It is actually SUV-sized (unlike the likes of the Kona, which you may be comparing it to - it is only shaped like an SUV). It can be cheaper than the Model Y, depending on the sku - and those two are the only budget EV SUVs that I am aware of (the E-Tron and iX are significantly more expensive). Bland? Who cares. There are people who only care about the utility that a vehicle has to offer. It is servicing an area of the market that only has one other deeply incompetent (as-per the article) competitor.